Kessler hits a lot harder than Pavlik, please stop saying otherwise.

[Kball15]

I dont care if your chin is made out of iron, If you get tagged like Kessler was tagging andrade then you go down easily..Thats if you have any power. But Kessler couldnt even put him down. Andrade was taking full on shots to the head/temple but was still standing, Anybody with decent power would have KO andrade that night.

absolutely.

It has nothing to do with a great chin. Kessler was hitting Andrade with every punch in the book, from every angle, and Andrade never buckled.

He has a great chin, no doubt about it, but when he get that flush that often, you usually get knocked out.

[deanrw]

They have different types of punching power. Kessler has a snap punch that can render guys out of it. Pavlik is more of a hurting heavy puncher. Pavlik really just commits more to knocking guys out as he really wants to beat guys up and will take chances doing it. Kessler is happy just doing his thing and does not care if his opponent falls or not. If Kessler committed more and took more chances, he would have a much higher KO ratio.

I cannot imagine either of their opponents liking being on the end of their punches. If Pavlik concentrated on body punching more, he would be incredibly hard to beat. He throws digging body shots like Cotto and Margarito, and we know that their body shots can do.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Pavlik is a bigger puncher P4P than is Kessler. Kessler hasn't scored any significant knockouts in big fights, not counting the already spent force Marcus Beyer. Pavlik commits to his punches, particularly the right cross. With his long frame he can get some good leverage on his shots.

We haven't seen Pavlik at 168 yet so it's hard to say how his power is up there. Pound for pound, it's hard to say.

We are not talking P4P, I would hazard a guess that the point of this thread is that a lot of people are saying that Pavlik could KO Calzaghe easily, but when presented with the Kessler arguement, they dismiss Kessler as a powder puff puncher.

This is not even remotely close to true.

Pavlik CLEARLY hits a lot harder then Kessler, absoultely no doubt about it what so ever.

Kessler isnt even a power puncher lol. You could ask Kessler himself who hits harder, and he'd say Pavlik.

Kessler is a very very skilled fighter, very fluid and exciting the watch, and he has a pretty good punch, but he nothing close to a pure "power puncher" like Pavlik is.

You can credit all of those 17 clean KO's to fighting horrible competition in Denmark.

Pavlik was raised on tough mexicans and the like. Not saying Pavlik is better now, but he fought much more live competition on his way up

The bit in bold is the most intelligent thing you have ever said, however the ****** quickly rears his ugly head again.

Kessler is not a power puncher because he boxes his way in, making him a "boxer/puncher".

The only way you are ever going to catch Joe flush enough to trouble him is with supreme timing, speed and outstanding boxing ability. Kessler had the timing, he had the speed and he had the boxing ability, but he didn't have the power to make the punch do any real damage. If Pavlik is a "pure power puncher" like you claim he is, the fact you believe he can catch Calzaghe when "pure boxers" with the 3 attributes I mentioned earlier have trouble doing this makes me feel embarrassed for you.

It is not a difficult assumption to make that the higher up in weight the more power a boxer has. The power difference from MW to SMW, although negligible, is enough to make a difference. Kessler carries unbelievable power by SMW standards, hitting as hard as many LHW's. Pavlik has only fought above 160 once I believe, and his power didn't appear to have carried that well.

Kessler is by far the bigger puncher, but even if I concede and and admit that it is even, (which it isn't, it's not even close) Pavlik still doesn't have enough power to put Joe away.

[Mickey Gomez]

Ok I'm doing a poll and it's not who punches harder p4p. The question will be who punches harder period.

[jangeorg]

Who gives a ****,who hit`s harder,Kessler will beat Palvik 10 out of 10 times if they ever meet

[TommyGunn.]

This is not even remotely close to true.

Pavlik CLEARLY hits a lot harder then Kessler, absoultely no doubt about it what so ever.

Kessler isnt even a power puncher lol. You could ask Kessler himself who hits harder, and he'd say Pavlik.

Kessler is a very very skilled fighter, very fluid and exciting the watch, and he has a pretty good punch, but he nothing close to a pure "power puncher" like Pavlik is.

You can credit all of those 17 clean KO's to fighting horrible competition in Denmark.

Pavlik was raised on tough mexicans and the like. Not saying Pavlik is better now, but he fought much more live competition on his way up

Facts can be hard to handle for some.

Dont worry, your a fan. I understand.

[Sinisterevo]

let them fight each other and settle the score.

[TommyGunn.]

Kessler would knock him out, he's better in almost every department.

Nobody can say Pavlik would KO him either, he's not even been down pro or AM.