Cintron Had Looked No Better Then Paulie!!!

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  • DLT
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    Cintron Had Looked No Better Then Paulie!!!

    Thats why I dont get the hype around Margarito. I like the dude and think he is a good fighter but I also think he is highly overrated on here and by the media. It seems that some have finally woke up about him and thats why they dont put him in the P4P contest at all but there's still a ton of hype and I dont get it.

    People have been ripping Malignaggi over his last 2 fights but Cinton looked the exact same as Paulie but he could always save himself at the end with a KO because of his power. The problem is that the guys he was stopping were garbage fighters and you shouldve known that a guy like Margarito would own him. Ive been ripping Cintron on here for years.

    I remember the Teddy Reid fight on here and I got ripped by alot of people. After that fight everyone was sweating Cintron and acting like he was so great. Then I made a few threads saying that Reid is the most shot fighter in the game right now and he came a inch away from stopping Cintron on multiple occasions. I said that if he had a life & death struggle with Reid then he is garbage. However, people still thought he would beat Margarito for some reason and when he got destroyed they act like they were surprised?

    Then he fights guys like Estrada & Feliciano. 2 average guys and Feliciano is even less then that but they both gave him straight hell until he finished him off because of his power. Still, those are 2 light punching guys who actually came straight at him and overwhelmed him, yet some thought a big punching physically big guy like Margarito who is a class over the other 2 and can take a punch, would have trouble in the rematch? Its a joke. How can you rip Paulie but act like Cintron is so great. My point is not really about Paulie or Cintron but its about Margarito. He gets so much hype for destroying guys like Cintron & Johnson but they are nobodies who would never come close to beating a top guy. Cintron would straight get owned by Floyd, Cotto, Clottey, Williams, or even Shane if he has anything left.

    Meanwhile Margarito is the same guy in that same time period who lost twice to a average guy like Santos, lost to Williams who was then straight owned by Quintana, and was given a beating by Clottey until he hurt his hand. This is the guy that everyone sweats? Why, because he KO Golden Johnson and the vastly overrated Cintron? I just dont get it. This is the guy that Floyd has to fight if he wants to be considered as a ATG? Ha Ha Ha. That is too funny. This is the guy who has to get rated over Floyd if he beats Cotto? Ha Ha Ha. I personaly think Cotto should destroy him if he has any kind of skill like people say. It should be like the Clottey fight except he should be able to do it for 12 rounds. The only thing that scares me about Cotto is he has never fought a big man yet so Im not sold on him either. Mosley is close but he's still not a huge guy.

    However, if Margarito wins then I think thats more of a diss on Cotto then it is showing how great Margarito is because he flat out is not. People are only picking him over Floyd due to his size. They know that skill wise Floyd is 3 levels ahead of him. The fact is that people lover brawlers and always will and thats why they will always be so overrated. They much rather see that then a pure boxer but the boxer will always have a longer and much better career while the brawler will always have losses because there skill level is not there.
    Last edited by DLT; 05-28-2008, 11:32 AM.
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    i cant take you serious because you bull**** to much. you claim you like margo yet you talk just like the kind of person who dismisses him. you havent watched the santos fight and you've heard the real story behind the clottey fight yet you continue to post this bull****.

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      Cintrón wishes he had 1/4 of the heart Malignaggi has.

      Cintrón is just a tough guy who has probably steamrolled every guy that was put in front of him thanks to his punch. Then Margarito took his punch and schooled him.

      It's easy to be the bully when you are physically superior.

      Malignaggi, to the contrary, has little power thanks to his brittle hands. Still, he has the guts to go to war with arguably the greatest punisher at 147 right now, and ended up winning the respect of many (incluiding myself) even when he lost.

      Cintrón doesn't have my respect.

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        Originally posted by 2501
        i cant take you serious because you bull**** to much. you claim you like margo yet you talk just like the kind of person who dismisses him. you havent watched the santos fight and you've heard the real story behind the clottey fight yet you continue to post this bull****.
        WTF are you talkin about? I have watched the Santos fight and I have it on tape. I do like watching Margarito and I think he is a straight beast the way he comes at you and throws a million punches but I also like guys like Mayorga but does that mean he is a "great" fighter? No he isnt. Infact, I think there about on the same level but no one guys crazy over Mayorga like they do Margarito. For once I would just like for you to tell me why Im wrong about this guy instead of just calling it B.S. with no facts behind it. I always lay my case out but all you do is call names and say Im wrong. Whats your case?
        Last edited by DLT; 05-28-2008, 11:35 AM.

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          Originally posted by Ras44
          Cintrón wishes he had 1/4 of the heart Malignaggi has.

          Cintrón is just a tough guy who has probably steamrolled every guy that was put in front of him thanks to his punch. Then Margarito took his punch and schooled him.

          It's easy to be the bully when you are physically superior.

          Malignaggi, to the contrary, has little power thanks to his brittle hands. Still, he has the guts to go to war with arguably the greatest punisher at 147 right now, and ended up winning the respect of many (incluiding myself) even when he lost.

          Cintrón doesn't have my respect.
          Actually, I agree with this but I knew people would rip me even more if I went that far. I think Paulie is way better then Cintron if there both on there game. All Cintron has ever had was power and he's not even that great at delievering it. The problem is that the C-class guys cant stop it but any top fighter would

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            Originally posted by DLT
            Actually, I agree with this but I knew people would rip me even more if I went that far. I think Paulie is way better then Cintron if there both on there game. All Cintron has ever had was power and he's not even that great at delievering it. The problem is that the C-class guys cant stop it but any top fighter would
            Agree. I think he looked for Steward because he thought he could be the second coming of Thomas Hearns. He sure loved the Kronk jacket.

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              Originally posted by DLT
              WTF are you talkin about? I have watched the Santos fight and I have it on tape. I do like watching Margarito and I think he is a straight beast the way he comes at you and throws a million punches but I also like guys like Mayorga but does that mean he is a "great" fighter? No he isnt. Infact, I think there about on the same level but no one guys crazy over Mayorga like they do Margarito
              who here is claiming that he is "great" or that he should be in the top 10 P4P other than Viva? Who? Post examples. just because people want to see him in with Floyd doesn't mean they are claiming he is one of the greatest. You're acting as if Floyd is your favorite fighter or something and you can't stand when someone picks an opponent to upset him.

              why don't you mention that Margo suffered a wrist injury and an ankle injury during training camp that was severe enough to warrant immediate surgery after the Clottey fight and that Clottey later admitted to just having a bruised knuckle during that fight? Did Tony complain and make a big deal about the injuries he had to battle through in that fight?

              Tony is a GOOD fighter. He is a test for anyone. He lost to Williams fair and square and he manned up after the fight not making any excuses. But other than that, he hasnt been given the opportunity to make a name for himself because no one is willing to fight him except Cotto. Certain people want to claim DLH would have easily disposed of Margo yet he chose Sturm over Margarito as a tune up. Floyd saw too much risk with little reward when it came to Margarito. Shane Mosley has OPENLY admitted to ducking Margarito. Mayorga never even entertained the option.

              I'm not directing this towards you, but it sometimes seems like some Floyd fans don't like when some of his rivals or supposed rivals get attention or credit so they start a slander campaign. ****s ridiculous.

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                Originally posted by 2501
                who here is claiming that he is "great" or that he should be in the top 10 P4P other than Viva? Who? Post examples. just because people want to see him in with Floyd doesn't mean they are claiming he is one of the greatest. You're acting as if Floyd is your favorite fighter or something and you can't stand when someone picks an opponent to upset him.

                why don't you mention that Margo suffered a wrist injury and an ankle injury during training camp that was severe enough to warrant immediate surgery after the Clottey fight and that Clottey later admitted to just having a bruised knuckle during that fight? Did Tony complain and make a big deal about the injuries he had to battle through in that fight?

                Tony is a GOOD fighter. He is a test for anyone. He lost to Williams fair and square and he manned up after the fight not making any excuses. But other than that, he hasnt been given the opportunity to make a name for himself because no one is willing to fight him except Cotto. Certain people want to claim DLH would have easily disposed of Margo yet he chose Sturm over Margarito as a tune up. Floyd saw too much risk with little reward when it came to Margarito. Shane Mosley has OPENLY admitted to ducking Margarito. Mayorga never even entertained the option.

                I'm not directing this towards you, but it sometimes seems like some Floyd fans don't like when some of his rivals or supposed rivals get attention or credit so they start a slander campaign. ****s ridiculous.
                so are you trying to tell me that a ton of people havent been saying that if Floyd retires without fighting Margarito then he is not an ATG? I also always thought the ducking stuff was a joke when it came to Margarito. He wanted certain guys that he couldnt get but Ive always said that there were a ton of guys who would fight him in a instant and are good fighters like a Collazo, Zab, Spinks, Clottey, Williams, Ouma at the time, Forrest, Simms, Rivera, Quintana, and so on. He couldve fought all those guys at any time and they wouldve accepted it. He finally fought Clottey & Williams and went 1-1. Then I always asked, if he cant get fights then why cant he move up like a ton of guys have? He moved up once and lost to Santos.

                Again, this is not pure hate on Margarito. I do love watching the guy fight. Im 50/50 on the Cotto fight. Skill wise I think Cotto is superior and should win. Cotto has gotten much better with each fight but he still hasnt ever been in the ring with a guy just as big and as strong as him so I think Margarito could shock him in that sense. Overall I will probably root for Cotto but only because he is undefeated and that makes him in Floyd by far the biggest fight in boxing but I wouldnt mind seeing Margarito-Floyd either

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                  #9
                  would maywetaher turn down $8 million to avoid malignagi??

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                    Originally posted by DLT
                    so are you trying to tell me that a ton of people havent been saying that if Floyd retires without fighting Margarito then he is not an ATG?
                    A ton of people? Seriously? Where? Now, the words you are using describe a large majority who share this belief. Now, would I be wrong in assuming that your favorite fighter is Floyd? Now, one thing I've noticed with Floyd fans is that they like to embellish on the actual amount of adversity Floyd receives. Many Floyd fans like to say things like, "Everybody picked Hatton, Baldomir, and Oscar to beat Floyd." Now, "everybody" describes a large majority just like "a ton of people" does. But as you can see by these Boxingscene polls, the opposite seems to be the truth..

                    Baldomir 25% vs. Mayweather 74%



                    DLH 16 % vs. Mayweather 65%



                    Hatton 36% vs. Mayweather 63%



                    As you can see, "everybody" did not think DLH, Baldomir, or Hatton would beat Mayweather. So then I ask you, is this "ton of people" who think that Margarito is a GREAT enough fighter to prevent Floyd from becoming an ATG if he doesnt fight him just a little exaggeration on your end or is there really a wave of posters large enough to make a thread about what you claim?

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