what constitutes a legend in boxing?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

He will be when he's done with the sport. He's not the most popular, richest man in the sport for nothing. He's fought all the best fighters out there. No one has taken on all the top competition like Oscar. He takes risks. If all other top fighters fought all the best, they too would have losses on thier records. And, he was competitive in every fight, he was never "beaten up" in the ring. He's fought in 6 different weight divisions, earning titles in each. And he still has the possibility of going out with a win over the top P4P boxer today.

Oscar Delahoya is a legend. Prolly the most impactful personality in the sport in our generation.

[abadger]

The items in red above are not even related to boxing accomplishment.

Ricky Hatton is a "welterweight title holder" like Zab judah is a "junior middleweight title holder". Collazo was not a champion. That was a paper belt. Be real.

Ricky hatton is the LINEAR AND LEGITIMATE JWW champion. He made it into the top ten p4p for a time. That is his legacy. Don't try to inflate it by putting ticket-buying info into the mix.

Winky wright has generated more sales revenue than Ricky's gate. Keep that in perspective.

Americans CHOOSE not to have fights in football arenas. Boxing is a televised event here in the states, and the culture is more around buying the PPV than traveling to the event. It is not appealing to the casual american fan to sit in the nosebleed section of an arena and not be able to see a fight.

Do you think that Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield could not have filled five arenas if they wanted?

Um, no offense.

But being a 'legend' itself is not related only to boxing accomplishment. A legend lives not in record books but in the minds of the fans.

Also, Ricky boxed on both sides of the Atlantic, his boxing filled stadiums in both countries, his boxing brought the fans with him, his boxing got him the CBE (he wouldn't have got it otherwise) and his boxing has made him loved by the fans.

So really all those things are boxing accomplishments. They wouldn't have happened if Ricky was a builder, would they?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

So really all those things are boxing accomplishments. They wouldn't have happened if Ricky was a builder, would they?

They are boxing-related...but they are not substantive accomplishments.

slightly beating/losing to Collazo...accomplishment?

hugging urango...accomplishment?

Being dominated and humiliated by mayweather...accomplishment?

Being knocked silly by a retired journeyman...accomplishment?

Jesse james Leija has fought EVERYBODY... is he a legend, too?

[abadger]

They are boxing-related...but they are not substantive accomplishments.

slightly beating/losing to Collazo...accomplishment?

hugging urango...accomplishment?

Being dominated and humiliated by mayweather...accomplishment?

Being knocked silly by a retired journeyman...accomplishment?

Jesse james Leija has fought EVERYBODY... is he a legend, too?

Yet another absurd, biased post. Why do you feel the need to denigrate the achievements of British fighters? I will never understand it.

[Nicky_Hatton]

Ricky Hatton is a "BRITISH boxing legend". Not a "boxing legend".

Understand my post and then reply , instead of mentioning Nationality.

You made the list; I added another reason; fan base.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Yet another absurd, biased post. Why do you feel the need to denigrate the achievements of British fighters? I will never understand it.

Two performances by your JWW "champs" this month should be a clear illustration why. Your LHW champ was knocked around by a 43 year old.

Is it becoming clear yet?

[mcentepede]

I saw this film called "Ring of Fire"...which is pretty much a boxing doc about Emile Griffith killing Benny "the Kid " Paret in a title match. The old man in the movie (some kind of coach/former boxer) said the reason Griffith is a legend is because he fought whoever was the #1 challenger at the time, then #2, and so on until no one was left. He went on to say that nowadays, the promoters look in the yellow pages to find a "suitable opponent" for the champion to fight. This guy was old and seemed to know alot...He made good sense to me. Sometimes a legend is little more than what is expected from being just a "champion". Griffith also visited Paret in the hospital before he died, but they wouldn't let him in the room. I don't want to spoil the end for anybody...watch it for yourself.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I saw this film called "Ring of Fire"...which is pretty much a boxing doc about Emile Griffith killing Benny "the Kid " Paret in a title match. The old man in the movie (some kind of coach/former boxer) said the reason Griffith is a legend is because he fought whoever was the #1 challenger at the time, then #2, and so on until no one was left. He went on to say that nowadays, the promoters look in the yellow pages to find a "suitable opponent" for the champion to fight. This guy was old and seemed to know alot...He made good sense to me. Sometimes a legend is little more than what is expected from being just a "champion". Griffith also visited Paret in the hospital before he died, but they wouldn't let him in the room. I don't want to spoil the end for anybody...watch it for yourself.

Emile Griffith is a ****sexual who took offense when he was 'outed'.