Hatton vs Lazcano gate 12 Million Us Dollars

[Xplosivo]

Hatton is a bigger draw than DLH. Look at the Forbes fight. DLH hardly sold 25K tickets (starting at 25$).
Floyd couldn't draw 10K ppl in his hometown against Baldomir.

Cakzaghe-Kessler gate was also over 5M pound

your an idiot...if the venue was big DLH would easily sell 100,000+ tickets, DLH-Forbes was sold according to how much space was in that venue...and it was sold out.

Question:

Mayweather-DLH sold something around the 20,000's in tickets, does that mean Hatton is a bigger draw because he sold 55,000? **** no it means the venue Hatton is fighting in is bigger and can hold more people...If there was a venue as big as Wembley stadium in las vegas and floyd was fighting in it, do you guys honestly think that he wouldn't sell atleast 60,000?

[jcarr71]

Well, let me qualify what I said in the beginning of this thread pertaining to Floyd being the bigger draw. Clearly I showed my biases. I was speaking in terms of being an American. Obviously per trying to fill the biggest arena possible with live bodies, there is no bigger draw than Ricky Hatton. He could fill a 100k stadium in England. This isn't debateable. There is no one else who could do that. I wasn't thinking of those terms. I was thinking of US PPV dollars, which is the classic (or recent classic, anyway) means of evaluating a draw. Obviously here Oscar is king. This may certainly be flawed as an assessment as boxing becomes increasingly an international sport, but that is what I meant to be commenting on. I think the best example to illustrate is comparing Floyd v Baldomir, a complete unknown with double digit losses, versus what would have came with Ricky versus Jose Luis Castillo, a much bigger and more credible name name if that were to be on PPV. Do you think Hatton versus Baldomir (in a hypothetical world given the same circumstances in which Floyd fought him but only today) would draw the same? It wouldn't do 200k. Oscar/Hatton wouldn have at absolutely miracle best done the 800k that Floyd/Hatton did. He was an emerging draw with the good numbers he pulled versus Baldomir and Zab, but Oscar and HBO gave the star rub to Floyd by casting him in as the villain in 24/7. Now anything Floyd does will be huge on PPV. No Americans outside of hardcore boxing fans had any clue who Hatton was, but 800k buys were generated. Those were all Floyd. Even if they became Hatton fans due to the 24/7, the draw was Floyd's. It was him being the villain. Hatton couldn't match those buys except against maybe Oscar, but they would be Oscar's absurd fanbase.

Seriously, which fight generates more buys: Hatton/Manny Pacquiao or Floyd/Manny Pacquiao? Again, this may be a flawed comparison, but in terms of generating money (how else can the biggest draw be measured? And American PPV is where the biggest money is). Floyd/Manny would definitely do the bigger number.

[!! AI-Holmes!!]

how much did they finally made, both hatton and lazcano??

[.Mik.]

Dios has picked a really silly argument to get embroiled in here.

Please remind me how many pay per view buys Hatton has in the US without Floyd.
Thanks in advance.

Lets put it this way. Say that Hatton sold more tickets in the arena for the Floyd fight...cos he did.

Say that EVERY PPV bought in the US was a Floyd fan buying the fight for Floyd. Say EVER PPV bought in the UK was a Hatton fan buying the fight for Hatton (none of it is ever this simple, but you're wanting to simplify things, so lets do it). Hatton sold more PPVs in the UK than Floyd sold in the US. This is the US with a population 10 times the size of the UK. Sure, Hatton may not sell much in the US in terms of PPV (but he certainly does ticket sales), but he made more money for the PBF fight than PBF did and if you did the same fight in the UK he'd make more money than Floyd ever made for any fight in his entire career.

Whether you like it or not, Hatton is a bigger draw. He is an even bigger draw when fighting Floyd. He'd be an EVEN BIGGER draw if he fought DLH...hell, he'd be even bigger than that if he fought Tyson over here. But against any of those fighters, he could sell out 75,000+ at Wembley stadium. Hatton could sell that out easily against DLH because of DLH's incredible following too. Hatton and DLH could easily sell out 55,000 against ANYONE in their own countries (DLH hasnt, but Hatton just DID against a relative nobody), he also made ****load of money from PPV sales (nobody knows how much yet, but bearing in mind that the pound sterling is MUCH stronger than the dollar at the moment, I'll wager that its money Floyd would be proud of). Floyd could never sell out 55,000 tickets against anyone other than Hatton or DLH. With his own supporters he'd struggle to do half that against a lower-tier fighter. He does great PPV figures, but Hatton and DLH do both PPV AND gate-receipts. The fact that Hatton's PPV sales are in the UK means nothing. Money is money.

Now. Stop being so silly.

[Michigan]

Ricky is right behind Delahoya for biggest draws in the sport.

"Ricky Hatton will set another record tonight when his bout against Juan Lazcano (pictured) becomes the biggest grossing bout in British boxing history. Tickets sales have topped the £6million mark for the IBO light-welterweight title bout at the City of Manchester Stadium."


http://timesonline.typepad.com/boxin...5/lazcano.html

Well folks you can ***** all you want..but Mayweather vs. Hatton 2 is all but damn near signed.

[MickyHatton]

Dios has picked a really silly argument to get embroiled in here.



Lets put it this way. Say that Hatton sold more tickets in the arena for the Floyd fight...cos he did.

Say that EVERY PPV bought in the US was a Floyd fan buying the fight for Floyd. Say EVER PPV bought in the UK was a Hatton fan buying the fight for Hatton (none of it is ever this simple, but you're wanting to simplify things, so lets do it). Hatton sold more PPVs in the UK than Floyd sold in the US. This is the US with a population 10 times the size of the UK. Sure, Hatton may not sell much in the US in terms of PPV (but he certainly does ticket sales), but he made more money for the PBF fight than PBF did and if you did the same fight in the UK he'd make more money than Floyd ever made for any fight in his entire career.

Whether you like it or not, Hatton is a bigger draw. He is an even bigger draw when fighting Floyd. He'd be an EVEN BIGGER draw if he fought DLH...hell, he'd be even bigger than that if he fought Tyson over here. But against any of those fighters, he could sell out 75,000+ at Wembley stadium. Hatton could sell that out easily against DLH because of DLH's incredible following too. Hatton and DLH could easily sell out 55,000 against ANYONE in their own countries (DLH hasnt, but Hatton just DID against a relative nobody), he also made ****load of money from PPV sales (nobody knows how much yet, but bearing in mind that the pound sterling is MUCH stronger than the dollar at the moment, I'll wager that its money Floyd would be proud of). Floyd could never sell out 55,000 tickets against anyone other than Hatton or DLH. With his own supporters he'd struggle to do half that against a lower-tier fighter. He does great PPV figures, but Hatton and DLH do both PPV AND gate-receipts. The fact that Hatton's PPV sales are in the UK means nothing. Money is money.

Now. Stop being so silly.

Great post.

No one is attempting to dispute that Mayweather is the better fighter, of course he is but Hatton has a enormous fan base and is well liked on the whole (Even in the States, I have first hand experience of that) whilst Mayweather has a core fan base but on the whole due to his perceived arrogance is not well liked.

Ability has no bearing on this matter, Calzaghe who is the best fighter in the UK could not fill Eastlands Stadium like Hatton did, Hatton has the like-ability factor and does therefore command a huge following, I mean over 6000 Brits attended the Mayweather and Hatton weigh in alone!

[Pullcounter]

this shows who the draw is. which is why floyd will only fight known boxers cause he knows anyone else and people wont care to go see him fight or even tune in.

it shows who is the overhyped fighter

[.Mik.]

Although he'll never be as popular as Hatton, Calzaghe now has a huge fan-base, particularly of fans who are coming back to the sport as part of boxing's recent resurgence. The right fighter and Calzaghe could easily sell out 55K stadiums, but even against a relatively average opponent he could likely do 35K these days. Which is nothing to be sneezed at.

[ATFsven]

the de la hoya fight was far from sold out.. masses of room on the pitch.
They would have put more seats in if the demand was there. I am a massive fan of De la hoya so i aint bashing. but at the end of the day this argument is shyte..

simply put.. if around the world de la hoya, floyd, hatton, pac, all had fights against b- fighters (on the same night) then Hatton wins hands down.

[mitch12]

Do you not remember the Castillo fight?
there were over 10,000 brits in the arena how could you NOT hear them?

because he probably put his tv on mute