floyd makes a ton of money.good for floyd.......

[audibleone]

Another thing is, I am 100% confident that he will fight Cotto in the future. Which is why accept what he is doing right now. All Cotto has to do is take care of his business while Floyd takes care of his. If they're both victorious in their upcoming fights, Cotto-Mayweather will happen in 2009.

What if it doesn't?

[C'MONMANG']

That will be the day if Margarito wins that his fans can start saying the things they are already saying, but then it will be legitimate. I'll shut the **** up about Margarito's resume if he wins on the 26th.

But really, is Margarito worth all the attention that he gets because he beat Cintron twice and Clottey, with Clottey having quite a few moments in the first few rounds?

this post shows just how little you know about boxing. I dont mean that as an insult. you are either blind or ignorant. Im willing to give you the benefit of the doubt since you just started following the sport.

[Vladimir303]

What if it doesn't?

The only way it doesn't is if Cotto losses. I fully expect Cotto to outbox Margarito as I think that he is nothing but a Bob Arum Hypemachine.

If he can't get past margarito then a fight against Mayweather was never meant to be.

[Fox McCloud]

this post shows just how little you know about boxing. I dont mean that as an insult. you are either blind or ignorant. Im willing to give you the benefit of the doubt since you just started following the sport.

Well tell me what is so spectacular about his resume, please.

Joshua Clottey has not won a world title, but is well on his way. I am a big believer in Clottey.

Cintron is a decent champion, but never really beat anyone worthwhile. He won a vacant title, and hasn't had a single good moment against Margarito (which is a credit to Margarito, not a knock on Cintron), but still, Cintron is very unproven on the top level.

Margarito has a ton of other "good" names on his resume, but no one really great that would eclipse something like Zab Judah, or even Carlos Baldomir IMO. Martinez, Diaz, Johnson... hell, even Lujan isn't a horrible name on the resume.

Is Margarito so hyped up because of his "potential" if he ever gets a big fight or what? You all can't be this excited about his resume can you? If it is potential, then I can understand, but if not... I just don't know.

[deanrw]

Well considering I am not giving him any credit for the achievement of winning the rematch with Oscar, but am just giving him the benefit of the doubt for an extension of how long he gets before he officially is "ducking" Cotto.

I am not even saying he is ducking Cotto. My message is what he is doing is totally unfair to the fighters who deserve a crack at him. They worked their asses off to get the "reward" of being placed on hold with the status of maybe.

The WBC belt was placed on hold. The Ring Belt was placed on hold. The #1 P4P status was placed on hold. He is simply holding back the sport. If more fighters had his mindset the sport would completely die.

No fighter deserves extra perks or the right to go by different rules. They have a responsibility to maintain the status they they earned. If they refuse, get off the pot.

Now after July 26th, he knows his name will not be in a conversation regarding any unification fight as he no longer holds the WBC title. He is not interested at all in fighting Margarito or Cotto. Now he will not get pressured. There is far more to this than meets the eye. I don't think this has anything to do with the WBC pressuring him or they would have done it a long time ago.

The timing always seems so perfect.

[Vladimir303]

I am not even saying he is ducking Cotto. My message is what he is doing is totally unfair to the fighters who deserve a crack at him. They worked their asses off to get the "reward" of being placed on hold with the status of maybe.

The WBC belt was placed on hold. The Ring Belt was placed on hold. The #1 P4P status was placed on hold. He is simply holding back the sport. If more fighters had his mindset the sport would completely die.

No fighter deserves extra perks or the right to go by different rules. They have a responsibility to maintain the status they they earned. If they refuse, get off the pot.

Now after July 26th, he knows his name will not be in a conversation regarding any unification fight as he no longer holds the WBC title. He is not interested at all in fighting Margarito or Cotto. Now he will not get pressured. There is far more to this than meets the eye. I don't think this has anything to do with the WBC pressuring him or they would have done it a long time ago.

The timing always seems so perfect.

Let me give you a few example of fighters doing the same or worse in the good old days of boxing:

Jack Demsey - The World Heavyweight Champion didn't defend his title for 2 years. Back then there was only one champion and there were no mandatories. In his first fight back, he lost the title.

The Cinderella Man Jim Braddock - Didn't defend his World Heavyweight title for 2 years. In his first defense, he lost to Joe Louis. This guy is supposed to be a hero yet he held up the division for two years.


Floyd Mayweather - Hold a unofficial P4P title which is based on opinion. Is the WBC welterweight champion and just defended against another P4P best in Hatton. The contenders of 147 have WBO, WBA and IBF titles they can go after now.


So how is he any worse then those great champions before him.......in the good old days of boxing.

[audibleone]

Let me give you a few example of fighters doing the same or worse in the good old days of boxing:

Jack Demsey - The World Heavyweight Champion didn't defend his title for 2 years. Back then there was only one champion and there were no mandatories. In his first fight back, he lost the title.

The Cinderella Man Jim Braddock - Didn't defend his World Heavyweight title for 2 years. In his first defense, he lost to Joe Louis. This guy is supposed to be a hero yet he held up the division for two years.


Floyd Mayweather - Hold a unofficial P4P title which is based on opinion. Is the WBC welterweight champion and just defended against another P4P best in Hatton. The contenders of 147 have WBO, WBA and IBF titles they can go after now.


So how is he any worse then those great champions before him.......in the good old days of boxing.

Is that it or are there more?

[deanrw]

Let me give you a few example of fighters doing the same or worse in the good old days of boxing:

Jack Demsey - The World Heavyweight Champion didn't defend his title for 2 years. Back then there was only one champion and there were no mandatories. In his first fight back, he lost the title.

The Cinderella Man Jim Braddock - Didn't defend his World Heavyweight title for 2 years. In his first defense, he lost to Joe Louis. This guy is supposed to be a hero yet he held up the division for two years.


Floyd Mayweather - Hold a unofficial P4P title which is based on opinion. Is the WBC welterweight champion and just defended against another P4P best in Hatton. The contenders of 147 have WBO, WBA and IBF titles they can go after now.


So how is he any worse then those great champions before him.......in the good old days of boxing.

Well I am not sure what rules of responsibility they had back in the 20's or 30's, but it is great to see you had to dig back 70 years to find similar results. I am sure there were either Injuries, Politics, or even the Great Depression involved.

[Vladimir303]

Well I am not sure what rules of responsibility they had back in the 20's or 30's, but it is great to see you had to dig back 70 years to find similar results. I am sure there were either Injuries, Politics, or even the Great Depression involved.

That's not the point, I could have listed some recent stuff. If you read betweent the lines, I listed some of the most beloved heros of past generation. Both guys have movies about them. Both fought in a great era that knowledgable boxing fans think of "as the good old days of boxing where fighters just fought".

In contrast, in todays era we have multiple belts and multiple ways for fighters to get to the top. If you're a welterweight contender, Floyd Mayweather isn't your only way to get to the top. Maybe Floyd is taking a break like Dempsey and Braddock did BUT he certainly isn't holding up the division because the one positive thing about sandctioning bodies in todays era is, they give more contenders, more oppritunities then they had in the old days...when there was only one champion.