Cotto vs Margarito on paper

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  • daggum
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    #11
    cottos experience against slick fighters is really gonna come in handy against margarito

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    • Scott9945
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      #12
      It seems a bit redundant to give Margarito the advantage in height, reach, and size.

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      • Addison
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        #13
        Originally posted by JoeR
        This is taken from a post in ESB

        Youth-Cotto
        Power-Margarito
        Stamina-Margarito
        Chin-Margarito
        Speed-Cotto
        Endurance-Margarito
        Experience-Margarito
        Skill-Cotto
        Reach-Margarito
        Height-Margarito
        Size-Margarito
        Hunger-Equal
        Workrate-Margarito

        You cant really argue with this list. You can make a case in the power and experience department for Cotto. But Margarito has the edge on paper. But Mosley also had the edge on paper, and Cotto beat him anyway. The thing is that Margo may have the edge in most categories, but these are slim. However; In the skill and speed department, Cotto has a huge advantage.

        Thoughts? How would you break down these categories? How do you see the fight end up?
        The things I feel Cotto has most in his favor potentially are his ring mileage and his advantage in footspeed. I think Undefeated made a good point about all the wars that Margarito has been in. Despite all the discussion of Cotto's chin and durability issues he has far fewer miles on him than Margarito.

        Even if Cotto gets hurt that doesn't nescessarily mean it will be the end of him. Theoritically he could sustain getting hurt multiple times based on what he's shown us in the past. That could make things very interesting depending on how he takes Margarito's bigger shots..

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        • JoeR
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          #14
          Originally posted by Addison
          The things I feel Cotto has most in his favor potentially are his ring mileage and his advantage in footspeed. I think Undefeated made a good point about all the wars that Margarito has been in. Despite all the discussion of Cotto's chin and durability issues he has far fewer miles on him than Margarito.

          Even if Cotto gets hurt that doesn't nescessarily mean it will be the end of him. Theoritically he could sustain getting hurt multiple times based on what he's shown us in the past. That could make things very interesting depending on how he takes Margarito's bigger shots..
          Yes, I have seen that in undefeated fighters. Thats why Cotto vs Torres was so intense. When you are undefeated, you aint giving up, no matter what happens. I can assure you; Cotto will not hear a 10 count, the referee will have to stop the fight. I just thought about this right now, Cotto has the best balance/footwork of any fighter right now. He is never off-balance. He throws a punch, his feet are set to throw another or to move side to side

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          • Addison
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            #15
            Originally posted by JoeR
            Yes, I have seen that in undefeated fighters. Thats why Cotto vs Torres was so intense. When you are undefeated, you aint giving up, no matter what happens. I can assure you; Cotto will not hear a 10 count, the referee will have to stop the fight. I just thought about this right now, Cotto has the best balance/footwork of any fighter right now. He is never off-balance. He throws a punch, his feet are set to throw another or to move side to side
            You know me, Joe. You know my views regarding Cotto and how I can be critical - but I honestly believe that if he gets hurt or in trouble he will not go quietly. I could picture him rising from multiple knockdowns if he's knocked down. I could picture him coming back from being staggered multiple times. Not just because he's done it before, because I know this guy really well at this point and when he goes in the ring he puts his whole life in it.

            I've said a few times that I feel bad for Margarito in a way because I think that Cotto could potentially fight more vicious and hit harder than he ever has because he feels his back his against the wall. Somebody is going to get hurt. You never know in these situations what will happen of course.. I've also thought about the chance that this becomes a Duran/Hearns situation with Cotto as Duran. I think Cotto's instincts were to stay away from Margarito and he got forced into it - but we shall see.

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            • JoeR
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              #16
              Originally posted by Addison
              You know me, Joe. You know my views regarding Cotto and how I can be critical - but I honestly believe that if he gets hurt or in trouble he will not go quietly. I could picture him rising from multiple knockdowns if he's knocked down. I could picture him coming back from being staggered multiple times. Not just because he's done it before, because I know this guy really well at this point and when he goes in the ring he puts his whole life in it.

              I've said a few times that I feel bad for Margarito in a way because I think that Cotto could potentially fight more vicious and hit harder than he ever has because he feels his back his against the wall. Somebody is going to get hurt. You never know in these situations what will happen of course.. I've also thought about the chance that this becomes a Duran/Hearns situation with Cotto as Duran. I think Cotto's instincts were to stay away from Margarito and he got forced into it - but we shall see.
              Actually, I think its the other way around. Cotto's strategy will be to stay away, but his instincts will take over and Margarito will "force him" to fight. This is the first Cotto fight that I am sure he will get hurt. Cotto will get hurt, makes me nervous.

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              • JoeR
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                #17
                Originally posted by Addison
                You know me, Joe. You know my views regarding Cotto and how I can be critical - but I honestly believe that if he gets hurt or in trouble he will not go quietly. I could picture him rising from multiple knockdowns if he's knocked down. I could picture him coming back from being staggered multiple times. Not just because he's done it before, because I know this guy really well at this point and when he goes in the ring he puts his whole life in it.
                I've said a few times that I feel bad for Margarito in a way because I think that Cotto could potentially fight more vicious and hit harder than he ever has because he feels his back his against the wall. Somebody is going to get hurt. You never know in these situations what will happen of course.. I've also thought about the chance that this becomes a Duran/Hearns situation with Cotto as Duran. I think Cotto's instincts were to stay away from Margarito and he got forced into it - but we shall see.
                Wow, powerful words.

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