David Haye is a knockout waiting to happen

[RichCCFC]

But Wlad has been at Heavyweight all his career, he's made a career of knocking out Heavyweights and is the best out there.

There is a difference between saying Haye is going up to his natural weight and going to beat some average fighters and saying he's going up to beat the best fighter there.

[TheGreatA]

Carl Thompson an old, average cruiserweight did it.

What makes you think the best heavyweight today wouldn't?

It's a foregone conclusion, IMO.

It's the same deal with the Haye fans saying 'Puritty did it, why wouldn't Haye do it?', isn't it?

It was Haye's 10th fight and he was put in there with an experienced former champion who took his bombs and came back swinging after Haye gassed out.

Wladimir is obviously the favorite, a HUGE favorite right now and I'd predict him to knock Haye out but there are more reasonable ways to argue the point.
The manner in which Wladimir would win would certainly not resemble the Thompson vs Haye bout in any way.

I'd look for the Wladimir vs DaVarryl Williamson fight and think about how much Wladimir has improved since then.
Williamson was a 210 lb right hand puncher with a weak chin and no defense.

Klitschko was down in the fight and went to a technical split decision with Williamson (with worst judge of all time Doug Tucker included who gave the fight to Williamson).

[aussieboxer2320]

I think I touched a nerve Chunk?

Hey, I say it how I see it and that's the way it is.

all you see is joe calzaghes genitals

[RichCCFC]

I'm not suggesting Haye is the same fighter now as he was then but even when Wlad lost, it was against natural Heavyweights.

It's a too big of leap for Haye to take and he will suffer the consequences.

[Chunk..]

But Wlad has been at Heavyweight all his career, he's made a career of knocking out Heavyweights and is the best out there.

There is a difference between saying Haye is going up to his natural weight and going to beat some average fighters and saying he's going up to beat the best fighter there.

Not really.

Heavyweight is his natural weight, no one knows how much Stamina and ability he lost making Cruiserweight.

Some fighters are comfortable dropping weight, Haye wasn't.

And Wlad has been dropped by less then ordinary fighters before so how do you know Haye couldn't do it?

Haye has one thing none of the Heavyweights up there have........SPEED!

[ElGranLuchador]

yep so is khan pavlik and gamboa im being serious

[RichCCFC]

Not really.

Heavyweight is his natural weight, no one knows how much Stamina and ability he lost making Cruiserweight.

Some fighters are comfortable dropping weight, Haye wasn't.

And Wlad has been dropped by less then ordinary fighters before so how do you know Haye couldn't do it?

Haye has one thing none of the Heavyweights up there have........SPEED!

Wlad is very fast himself for a big guy, it's one of his assets.

What are we basing this off? That Haye didn't look great at Cruiserweight because he is weight drained? The guy is 29, it's not like some kid moving up through the ranks. He's had a lot of his career at Cruiserweight and only 1 Heavyweight fight. Where is the proof that he will be even better at Heavyweight?

You're just clutching at straws predicting he will be better at a higher weight when there is no evidence which would prove that.

[Chunk..]

Wlad is very fast himself for a big guy, it's one of his assets.

What are we basing this off? That Haye didn't look great at Cruiserweight because he is weight drained? The guy is 29, it's not like some kid moving up through the ranks. He's had a lot of his career at Cruiserweight and only 1 Heavyweight fight. Where is the proof that he will be even better at Heavyweight?

You're just clutching at straws predicting he will be better at a higher weight when there is no evidence which would prove that.

I didn't say he would be better at Heavyweight, i said he would be fighting at his natural weight.

Big difference.

And he's light years quicker then Wlad.

[Dynamite Kid]

Ricky needs to get over the Enzo losss ,Cardiff lost to move on Boyo

[RichCCFC]

Ricky needs to get over the Enzo losss ,Cardiff lost to move on Boyo

I'm posting logically here, I just wish some people did the same.