If Cotto-Margarito Don't Do 500,000+ Buys, They Ain't Worthy Of Floyd

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  • Vladimir303
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    #51
    Originally posted by baya
    not facts, like you told me, thats opinion. its called the b side.

    if gatti wasn't popular gatti, floyd makes no cake. that THAT hard to understand?
    So you couldn't disprove even one thing I named on that list.


    Nice.........TKO victory for The Vlad.

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    • baya
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      #52
      Originally posted by vladimir303
      Cotto doesn't garner anything. His last fight which was on Free HBO was one of the lowest rated boxing cards ever. Floyd never had that problem. That should tell you something.
      floyd couldn't sell out his backyard, that should tell you something from where he came from. obviously that would never happen to cotto in either PR or NYC - but it did to floyd in a high school - wasn't it a high school?

      you're losing bad. floyd took steps to get here, but what propelled him over the top in PPV #'s were his opponents, not floyd. you and i both know that.

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      • baya
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        #53
        Originally posted by vladimir303
        So you couldn't disprove even one thing I named on that list.


        Nice.........TKO victory for The Vlad.
        you can't even PROVE it ... this if fun.

        what am i to disprove if its not fact? you're assumptions, like your TKO victory is a mirage papito.

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        • Vladimir303
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          #54
          Originally posted by Devious.
          That is more pathetic for Floyd.. being a champion for so long and not having a PPV??

          Wonder why...
          The large majority of Floyd's fights were on HBO. That's an accomplishment on it's own.

          HBO turned down Miguel Cotto a buncha times which is why the Bobfather had to make one of his own independent Top Rank PPV's...Example: Malignaggie/Cotto.

          Floyd didn't have that problem.

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          • crold1
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            #55
            Neither Ike, Tito, or Shane had ever done **** on PPV before Oscar; Floyd had never done above 400K before Oscar. Part of being the sports key draw is bringing the rest of the sport up with you. Oscar did that, making all of those fighters lives better when he could have made money elsewhere without them. Mayweather did it with Hatton who had no PPV presence at all before December but that doesn't mean he can stop. Cotto would be, in the U.S. market, bigger than Hatton by early 09. It's always been that way. Great fighters with big draw against top opponents = growth for boxing and greater greatness. If Mayweather is better than Oscar ever was (and he probably is) why would anyone argue it okay for him to do less than Oscar? Mayweather, if he chooses to continue fighting, and Cotto keeps winning, fights Cotto or it's bull**** and so is he.

            Period.

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            • Sin City
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              #56
              The point im trying to make is Cotto is becoming a star FASTER then Mayweather did.. He has already had PPVs, Headlined HBO, Sold out MSG and is only 27..
              Mayweather, like Baya said, had trouble selling out a free card at Cotto's age!
              With the exposure he is getting now.. by the time he is at the point of his career Mayweather is now.. He will be a bigger star and just as known if not more..

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              • Bhopreign
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                #57
                Originally posted by baya
                critical thinking not a strong point eh - here .. lets lay it out for you ... if cotto on his own name is garnering PPV worthy attention already at 26, a good 4 years before floyd started to.

                then just think reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hard you might come up with the real possibility that with another PPV friendly dance partner - he shatters floyd's numbers.

                but he wont because odlh don't want none of cotto. floyd did get that one, good for him!
                Again like most you see what you want to, I never said Floyd shouldnt fight either but that they should wait to make it even bigger if they dont do 500,000+. Explain to me how Cotto gets one of the lowest ratings on FREE HBO even with Margo on it? Hmm.
                Last edited by Bhopreign; 05-22-2008, 09:08 PM.

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                • Vladimir303
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by baya
                  you can't even PROVE it ... this if fun.

                  what am i to disprove if its not fact? you're assumptions, like your TKO victory is a mirage papito.
                  They are facts and you're just pissing around the circle because you can't disprove one thin I've said.

                  Example: Gatti's first and only PPV. Biggest payday of his career.

                  Delahoya's biggest PPV, his biggest payday.

                  You're done.

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                  • baya
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by vladimir303
                    The large majority of Floyd's fights were on HBO. That's an accomplishment on it's own.

                    HBO turned down Miguel Cotto a buncha times which is why the Bobfather had to make one of his own independent Top Rank PPV's...Example: Malignaggie/Cotto.

                    Floyd didn't have that problem.
                    floyd didn't have that problem at 25? cotto headlined that PPV when he was, you guessed it 25 - what was floyd doing at 25 ... yeah, not headlining PPV's.

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                    • Vladimir303
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Devious.
                      The point im trying to make is Cotto is becoming a star FASTER then Mayweather did.. He has already had PPVs, Headlined HBO, Sold out MSG and is only 27..
                      Mayweather, like Baya said, had trouble selling out a free card at Cotto's age!
                      With the exposure he is getting now.. by the time he is at the point of his career Mayweather is now.. He will be a bigger star and just as known if not more..
                      That maybe true.....but he will only rise so much.

                      He won't reach the Floyd mainstream level........too boring of a character.

                      True boxing fans can always appriciate a quiet but good fighter like that BUt that's as far as it goes.

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