will haye unify the heavyweight belts ?

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  • Dick-Sucker
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    #11
    Yes.

    HW is a weak division.

    Haye is a complete fighter.

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    • aussieboxer2320
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      #12
      thankyou!!

      although i dont think hes complete, still has a bit to work on, but better than ****in wlad or sultan or any of those other ***in russians lol

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      • Action Blackson
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
        Yes.

        HW is a weak division.

        Haye is a complete fighter.
        Lemme know how he gets past Wlad's jab.

        I just love the fact how a guy with two fights at heavyweight, that were three years ago against bums, is even considered relevant at all.

        This is the same guy that got beat bad by a finished Carl Thompson.

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        • moofo
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          #14
          Originally posted by Action Blackson
          Lemme know how he gets past Wlad's jab.

          I just love the fact how a guy with two fights at heavyweight, that were three years ago against bums, is even considered relevant at all.

          This is the same guy that got beat bad by a finished Carl Thompson.
          WRONG.
          Have you ever seen the Thompson fight?
          I doubt it by your comment.
          Haye was smashing Thompson all over and any other ref could have stopped the fight in favour of Haye.
          Haye learnt a valuable lesson against Carl as he found out he had to take his training and conditioning far more seriously and not rely on his power.
          Thompson had been in fights before where he came back from the brink and was renowned for his resilience.
          Haye was just green back then and was still on his feet at the end.
          More tired than Ko'ed.
          The Thompson fight made him a far better fighter than he would have been.
          To even compare the Haye of today with the Haye of the Thompson fight shows how little you know.

          In your own words..."is even considered relevant at all."

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          • aussieboxer2320
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            #15
            good opinions

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            • warp1432
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              #16
              Not with Wlad there, but I bet he could get past Chagev or maybe Peter.

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              • Action Blackson
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                #17
                Originally posted by moofo
                WRONG.
                Have you ever seen the Thompson fight?
                I doubt it by your comment.
                Yes, but I'm from America so I'm not ****ing biased.

                I don't care what he was doing before he got laid out by Thompson.

                Let me know when pre-KO loss stats mean a damn thing. Haye started out good in the first two rounds, began to lose in the 3rd. Lost the 4th bad, and the 5th was the end of it. Not much else to it. Losing to guys by KO, who aren't known as power punchers, is never a good thing. Spin it any way you want; there's no reason to believe he could get through any of the belt-holders.

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                • moofo
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Action Blackson
                  Yes, but I'm from America so I'm not ****ing biased.

                  I don't care what he was doing before he got laid out by Thompson.

                  Let me know when pre-KO loss stats mean a damn thing. Haye started out good in the first two rounds, began to lose in the 3rd. Lost the 4th bad, and the 5th was the end of it. Not much else to it. Losing to guys by KO, who aren't known as power punchers, is never a good thing. Spin it any way you want; there's no reason to believe he could get through any of the belt-holders.
                  I'm not from England and I am not biased either.
                  So you believe that Haye is the same fighter that fought Thompson?
                  A guy you consider a bum who was far from that.
                  And why do you insist he was laid out when he wasn't?
                  Obviously you have not seen the fight if you carry on with that belief.
                  Like many other clowns you think that a loss in a career means that a fighter is obviously rubbish and that you can base a guy's future credentials on an early fight.
                  A lot of great fighters lost early in their careers but went on to greater things like Marvin Hagler for example.
                  That would mean Sugar Ray Robinson was rubbish as well.
                  Haye fought Thompson in his 11th pro fight and such a wily old veteran was just what he needed to kick him up the ass to take his job seriously.
                  It is hilarious that people like you bring up this learning loss to discredit Haye's actual quality of the present day.
                  The Haye of now versus the Best Thompson ....and Haye would destroy him.
                  The Haye Vs Thompson Fight is irrelevant to Haye's ability as a fighter now.
                  Or are you telling us all that Haye is still at the same level as he was when he fought Thompson?
                  You are just talking out of your ass.

                  As to the question of whether Haye can unify the HW division?

                  It all depends on how he handles being hit at HW.
                  He certainly has a good chance of being successful with the current crop of talent out there.
                  He also has a few distinct advantages over a lot of HW's liek Sam Peter.
                  He is taller , longer reach , better speed , better Skilled more accurate and ultimately has KO power.
                  Wlad is only 3 " taller than Haye and himself has been KO'ed by inferior classed fighters.

                  Haye has a good chance of winning a title at least.

                  I just find it ****ing hilarious that ******s write him off for an early loss in his career.

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                  • Action Blackson
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                    #19
                    Yes, I'm the idiot because I want to see him beat someone in the top-20 at heavyweight before I proclaim him the greatest heavyweight of all-time. How ****** of me!

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                    • moofo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Action Blackson
                      Yes, I'm the idiot because I want to see him beat someone in the top-20 at heavyweight before I proclaim him the greatest heavyweight of all-time. How ****** of me!
                      No you are an idiot because you use a fight from Haye's early career to base your reckoning for his chances at the present time.
                      The Thompson fight is IRRELEVANT to how Haye is as a fighter in 2008.
                      So stop using it as a yard stick as it makes you look foolish.

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