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By Cliff Rold - He came into the ring smiling, bouncing on his toes, and hardly looking like a man headed into the biggest fight of his career. At the final bell, the smile, the almost eerie calm, remained. [details]
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Mijares needs to fight Montiel to solidify himself as the man of the division. Please no Arce rematch,he made him look like a amateur! -
i agree. mijares should fight another boxer he has not yet beaten. arce's boxing skills means nothing for mijares.
but i like the rematch of mijares-arce, not because i like arce to avenge his loss but i want mijares to do the revenge for lookmahanak. lookmahanak clearly won over arce but the deranged judges lost their minds and awarded arce with a win.Comment
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I dunno... But, I respectfully defer, Cliff. It looks to me that he was a pastmaster against Arce but just won against Munoz. Munoz caught him in the corner (Round 9, was it?) and hit him with several shots. He did indeed roll with the punches but I don't know that getting hit and rolling with the punches can become part of a masterpiece. Not, I guess, if one brings to mind people like Nicolino Locche and Sweet Pea and a handful of others. I'm sure you remember them. Those guys stood in front of foes, arms to the sides and didn't roll with punches; they just simply seldom got hit.
In the process they painted true masterpieces.
Mijares' performance against Munoz was something to watch. But I think it falls short of being a masterpiece.
Sorry to disagree, oldtimer...
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Grayfist: Against their best foes, even Locche and Pea got hit. Hell, McGirt, Nelson, even Chavez, hit Pea plenty (someone swole Pea up in the Chavez fight). It was their ability to not get hit twice in a row by their best opp that made all the different.Comment
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The underlined sentence is what I meant when I said, "...they just simply seldom got hit". I didn't say, "never".
In no way did I assert that Locche and Whitaker painted masterpieces each time they went on (or crafted something). None of the past masters in all arts managed to do that. Not Van Gough, not Cellini, not Michelangelo, not da Vinci...Nobody. Many of the works of geniuses that fall short of what can be called masterpieces are sometimes referred to as a "master's piece", or, if you will, "masters' pieces" or "master's pieces" or a "master's work" or "work of a master", etc.--all euhpemisms.
If one watches Locche-Cervantes (a summit of Hall of Famers)== http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA-7p6x82xU == and then watch Mijares- Munoz (Mijares may make it to the IBHOF but Munoz?) == http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZq-rawN4g (Please take a good look at the slow motion sequence starting at the 00:39 mark of the counter)...
Well, I think there's no basis for comparison. The former is a masterpiece, the second, a good win. Perhaps, even a "master's piece", granting that Mijares has earned the right to be called a "Master".
Mijares in the Arce fight looked a lot better (I quote myself: "...it looks to me that he was a pastmaster against Arce...") I won't argue against anybody who says Mijares painted a kind of masterpiece that night, although some may point out that Arce's style helped much to make that possible (I won't argue against that too).
For no other reason than to put emphasis, I state: I am not denying that Mijares won over Munoz. Opposed to the third judge, I, too, saw it as a clear Mijares victory.
I am not even saying Mijares did not look good against Munoz. All I'm saying is that the victory was not carved out in the fashion that would result in what I can call (just my opinion) a masterpiece. More so, as I again look at the competition: Munoz to Mijares cannot be compared to a Chavez or an Azumah or even a McGirt fighting Sweet Pea. Whitaker may not have managed to produce masterpieces against those three you cited (the first of whom will in time be in Canastota; the second, already there, and the third...well, I think he's closer to getting there than Munoz is), but neither has Mijares against a Munoz.Last edited by grayfist; 05-22-2008, 08:08 PM.Comment
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Those are all fair points. Mijares hasn't earned the right to be called out in line with Pea or Locche yet and he didn't move his hands enough in the first half of the fight for my taste. That said, I thought he was brilliant in the second half which lends itself to strategy. Six of one...half dozen another.
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You got it all covered right there, oldtimer.Those are all fair points. Mijares hasn't earned the right to be called out in line with Pea or Locche yet and he didn't move his hands enough in the first half of the fight for my taste. That said, I thought he was brilliant in the second half which lends itself to strategy. Six of one...half dozen another.
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