David Haye Vacates WBC Cruiserweight Title

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  • hookoutofhell
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    #11
    haye might actually do quite well though he fights with a low guard and litchsko's jab and right hand could be a problem remeberthat haye is pretty quick and has decent reflexes. whats more klitchsko's chin isn't all that and haye has said that he enjoys fighters who are taller than him as he can see their chin unlike fighters like mormeck etc.
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    • ATFsven
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      #12
      Originally posted by Stickman
      I just watched Haye's last fight, and I hate to piss on anyone's parade here (Haye's, primarily), but Davey boy is ****ing tailor made for Klitchko. Here's what I saw:

      He fights low, pulls straight back, keeps a low guard, doesn't jab enough, only throws singles or at most 2 punch combos, throws almost nothing downstairs, and tries to do all his work from outside.

      Granted, Klitchko has a few shortcomings, but this guy is a coma looking for a place to happen if he steps into the ring with the big guy.

      He should be very careful. If he keeps calling Wlad out, he might just end up in the ring with him....for a few minutes, anyway.

      Seriously, this is the up-and-comer that's supposed to end Klitchko?
      Haye said before the fight he is just gonna go for head shots to take him out asap. The hands down is mainly to draw a right hand that he can counter. i dont think he would fight the same way against Vlad.

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      • bluemax
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        #13
        Haye is not a heavyweight! Has never competed professionally as a heavyweight for a reason, has shown he has stamina problems and has been knocked out by an over the hill cruiserweight. I looked at his record. Most names I never heard of, those that have credibility as cruiserweights anyway were past there prime when he fought them because lets face it the cruiserweight division is not exactly loaded with world class talent. He's had only 21 fights never campaigned as a heavyweight now his fans believe he's entitled to a free shot at the heavyweight title!! If he wants to campaign with his mouth let him join a debate team if he wants a shot at the heavyweight title let him fight a few heavyweights in the top ten.

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        • BetterCallSaul
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          #14
          Originally posted by bluemax
          Haye is not a heavyweight! Has never competed professionally as a heavyweight for a reason, has shown he has stamina problems and has been knocked out by an over the hill cruiserweight. I looked at his record. Most names I never heard of, those that have credibility as cruiserweights anyway were past there prime when he fought them because lets face it the cruiserweight division is not exactly loaded with world class talent. He's had only 21 fights never campaigned as a heavyweight now his fans believe he's entitled to a free shot at the heavyweight title!! If he wants to campaign with his mouth let him join a debate team if he wants a shot at the heavyweight title let him fight a few heavyweights in the top ten.
          Do your research!

          David Haye has campaigned at heavyweight, and he knocked the guy down 3 or 4 times in the first round, which led to a 1st round knockout.

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          • beez721
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            #15
            Originally posted by timba1988
            Do your research!

            David Haye has campaigned at heavyweight, and he knocked the guy down 3 or 4 times in the first round, which led to a 1st round knockout.
            lol,,,,this makes him a worthy challenger. that bonin is one top notch heavyweight!

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              #16
              Originally posted by bluemax
              Haye is not a heavyweight! Has never competed professionally as a heavyweight for a reason, has shown he has stamina problems and has been knocked out by an over the hill cruiserweight. I looked at his record. Most names I never heard of, those that have credibility as cruiserweights anyway were past there prime when he fought them because lets face it the cruiserweight division is not exactly loaded with world class talent. He's had only 21 fights never campaigned as a heavyweight now his fans believe he's entitled to a free shot at the heavyweight title!! If he wants to campaign with his mouth let him join a debate team if he wants a shot at the heavyweight title let him fight a few heavyweights in the top ten.
              another boxrec expert..

              DO ONE

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              • BetterCallSaul
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                #17
                Originally posted by beez721
                lol,,,,this makes him a worthy challenger. that bonin is one top notch heavyweight!
                Where did I say he was a worthy challenger?

                I just pointed out he has already fought at heavyweight and beat the guy convincingly.

                Certanily a start compared to the bums Wlad has fought recently.

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                • beez721
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by timba1988
                  Where did I say he was a worthy challenger?

                  I just pointed out he has already fought at heavyweight and beat the guy convincingly.

                  Certanily a start compared to the bums Wlad has fought recently.
                  uh,,,yea bonin is up there with sultan,,brewster,,brock,,peter,,byrd etc,,,lol

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                  • rusticraver
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by beez721
                    uh,,,yea bonin is up there with sultan,,brewster,,brock,,peter,,byrd etc,,,lol
                    Your missing the point of that fight. He was 217, testing the water..

                    It was an experiment

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                    • Stickman
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ATFsven
                      Haye said before the fight he is just gonna go for head shots to take him out asap. The hands down is mainly to draw a right hand that he can counter. i dont think he would fight the same way against Vlad.
                      All I'm saying is that if what I saw is what he brings to the ring, he'll end the fight as damaged goods. I agree that he's quick, but then so is Klitchko, for his size. And remember, when he (Haye) steps up to heavyweight and gains a little walking around weight, he'll slow down a little.

                      I think Haye has potential, but not without some serious changes. And if he steps into the ring with Wlad before he makes those changes, he'll be starched within 3. Honestly, even after overcoming those things I mentioned, I don't know that he'd stand much of a chance. I think Klitchko's just too big and too smart for anyone right now.

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