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  • Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY View Post
    Tougher people? I dont think ANY ONE OF THOSE GUYS could stand up to what Ward, Castillo, Corrales, Gatti, Holyfiedl, etc have stood up to. Tougher people??? Man, I think you laid a huge brain fart with that observation
    You don't think those guys could stand up to it? Why? They are tougher people. If they hit you and knock you down, they don't go across the ring and wait to see if you're okay. They jump on you, and pound on your face. If they want, they can choke you, break your arm, your leg, etc. There are tough boxers too, don't get me wrong, but for the most part, these guys are the toughest. They cant throw their arms up and protect their head at all time and be safe. Because if they do, they will be taken down. In boxing, someone can just cover up..they'll lose, but there isn't a lot of danger.
    Yes Gatti-Ward was great. But you're dillusional if you think boxing is tougher. Nobody cares about boxing, arenas are always empty. MMA sells out every time. There is a reason for that.

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    • Originally posted by gazdastrip View Post
      You don't think those guys could stand up to it? Why? They are tougher people. If they hit you and knock you down, they don't go across the ring and wait to see if you're okay. They jump on you, and pound on your face. If they want, they can choke you, break your arm, your leg, etc. There are tough boxers too, don't get me wrong, but for the most part, these guys are the toughest. They cant throw their arms up and protect their head at all time and be safe. Because if they do, they will be taken down. In boxing, someone can just cover up..they'll lose, but there isn't a lot of danger.
      Yes Gatti-Ward was great. But you're dillusional if you think boxing is tougher. Nobody cares about boxing, arenas are always empty. MMA sells out every time. There is a reason for that.
      Take your ass to mmalinker or sherdog. This is a boxing forum.

      MMA ONLY SELLS out on the west coast. Like I said, I went to the UFC card in Jersey last year and there were a couple thousand empty seats.

      I dont doubt some of those MMA guys are tough.

      But lets be honest, those fights are over in a flash once someone is hurt. Where do they have a chance to show toughness or resolve?

      And they dont sell out because their any better than Boxers. They sell out because their at a peak right now and every teenager with zits is sold on that junk just like kids were 20 years ago on wrestling.

      Don't try to tell me their more talented individuals either. Most of those guys dont start training for MMA until their 20's.

      You wont make it in boxing starting that late.

      I see you ignored my post too and went to the ICEMAN'S

      Your funny...

      Nobody cares about Boxing?

      Last I looked boxing holds the all time PPV record and Ricky Hatton got 25k people to come to the states to watch him fight Mayweather.

      Eat your words my man

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      • Originally posted by PWESTNYC View Post
        Take your ass to mmalinker or sherdog. This is a boxing forum.

        MMA ONLY SELLS out on the west coast. Like I said, I went to the UFC card in Jersey last year and there were a couple thousand empty seats.

        I dont doubt some of those MMA guys are tough.

        But lets be honest, those fights are over in a flash once someone is hurt. Where do they have a chance to show toughness or resolve?

        And they dont sell out because their any better than Boxers. They sell out because their at a peak right now and every teenager with zits is sold on that junk just like kids were 20 years ago on wrestling.

        Don't try to tell me their more talented individuals either. Most of those guys dont start training for MMA until their 20's.

        You wont make it in boxing starting that late.

        I see you ignored my post too and went to the ICEMAN'S

        Your funny...

        Nobody cares about Boxing?

        Last I looked boxing holds the all time PPV record and Ricky Hatton got 25k people to come to the states to watch him fight Mayweather.

        Eat your words my man

        Youre dumber than I thought. I do go to those MMA sites, but I personally enjoy boxing, so I come here too. I am a new england resident, so I have been to both boxing and MMA cards and let me tell you, the MMA cards are jam packed. The boxing cards are not..ever.

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        • MMA is a modern take on female mud wrestling.

          It would be gay as hell if there were mud in there. MMA fighters are fishy.

          I feel sorry for males that enjoys such close contact with another half-naked sweaty male.

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          • Originally posted by gazdastrip View Post
            Youre dumber than I thought. I do go to those MMA sites, but I personally enjoy boxing, so I come here too. I am a new england resident, so I have been to both boxing and MMA cards and let me tell you, the MMA cards are jam packed. The boxing cards are not..ever.
            Dumber than you thought?

            Glad to know your from New England. That explains it all.

            Jam packed , I agree. They put on some good cards with alot of fights.

            But you totally ignored the points I made.

            You want to insult me thats fine. You haven't made many valid points yet so we all know who is dumb.;

            What does that tell you if boxing cards " are not..ever" jam packed and still do the numbers they do.

            I watch UFC from time to time but to be honest men in tights groping each other doesnt do it for me.

            Just the heavy hitters like Rampage and Silva get my attention

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            • Well, as far as being tougher.... the best boxing fights contain SUSTAINED lengthy action...Corrales etc. they ****** it up for long periods of time. The MMA guys go through trauma too, sure, but they dont have to endure sustained punishment for long periods of time. On their feet. Let ANY MMA guy BOX with a top pro fighter and he will crumble from the PUNISHMENT not just from the skill.

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              • I have a list. Emile Griffith, Floyd Mayweather (sometimes),Oscar is cool as ****, Pac (unless he's being mobbed by Mexicans chanting MARQUEZ), MAB was always a **** as was Jorge Arce, Chavez Jr (he must have signed 2000 autographs and taken another 1000 pics the day I saw him). A trainer that's cool as **** is Steward! I kicked it with him the night of Joe C vs B-Hop after the fight, I was drinking at the bar @ planet Hollywood and he was right there, we started talking about boxing and he gave me a signed Kronk gym Flyer and his #, he said next time he was in town for a fight that I should call him to get a pair of tickets for me and my Dad. My boy who works security told him that he shouldn't train sorry fighters like Cintron, and he laughed his ass off.

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                • This guy is a no body but he's obviously a boxer.... Tell me how an MMA guy would have handled 4 guys rushing him? WHAT would he have taken one down and had the other 3 guys jump on him? A trained boxer is skilled. Most MMA guys can't box (technically), that's why they have those looping hooks. I've yet to see a famous MMA fighter that has solid boxing skills. I'm not knocking MMA fighters (my cousin fights and is really close to big guys) but they are not as technical. there is no way any MMa guy could just Box like JMM or ricardo Lopez, which are reknowned for their technique.

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                  • Originally posted by alfonso13702 View Post

                    This guy is a no body but he's obviously a boxer.... Tell me how an MMA guy would have handled 4 guys rushing him? WHAT would he have taken one down and had the other 3 guys jump on him? A trained boxer is skilled. Most MMA guys can't box (technically), that's why they have those looping hooks. I've yet to see a famous MMA fighter that has solid boxing skills. I'm not knocking MMA fighters (my cousin fights and is really close to big guys) but they are not as technical. there is no way any MMa guy could just Box like JMM or ricardo Lopez, which are reknowned for their technique.
                    I am not saying the boxers dont have good punching skills. But that example is weak. That is against guys off the street, who quite honestly, were worse tham most women. An MMA fighter has much better punching skills than a non-combat fighting person..just not as much as a boxer, who specializes in punching..and punching only. If a boxer is on the street and gets taken down, it is the same thing as taking a skate boarder down..they are inept. Unless that boxer has some previous jiujitsu or wrestling experience, they are finished. If someone has done MMA they are a fighter. If they've done boxing, they are a boxer. It's not an insult, so people shouldnt get so defensive.

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                    • Get out of here with this MMA bull****. I like MMA too, but this isn't the time, and it certainly isn't the place. Hope the thread can avoid further troll interference and get back on track, as there are some very interesting little stories on here.

                      So has anyone out there ever met Marvelous Marvin Hagler? He was in the middle of his prime when I was a little kid, and is the first boxer to get me to take notice.....

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