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  • KnockoutTheFat
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    #41
    Originally posted by SkillspayBills
    I keep telling you we can't talk about Tye Fileds too much or this board will crash. Tye Fields has more friends on ******* than Tom.
    Oh yeah, ur right
    The fans are smarter than me so they must've predicted some sort of Earth-shattering epidemic if we talked about him too much.

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      #42
      see, with me, you'll never read a post from me saying that Floyd is ducking anyone. As a matter of fact, I even said Floyd not fighting Margarito was a smart move and I would have done the same and I explain why in the thread. You'll never read a post from me saying that Floyd is overrated because anyone who claims that doesnt know **** about Boxing. You'll never see me say Floyd's resume is completely overrated, BUT you will see posts from me saying his WW + resume IS overrated and handpicked.

      I do think Floyd is a certified all time great. I do think he's the world's best boxer. But I also think that he ISNT acting as the world's best boxer, he ISNT behaving in the manner that the P4P champ should and I make it VERY known that If he ISNT going to behave that way, he needs to move the **** out the way.

      I've never once said he SHOULDNT be on Dancing with the Stars, I've never once said he SHOULDNT do WWE or any other extra ****, but if a Floyd Boy tries to tell me that all this is going to bring millions of new fans to BOXING, not just HIS fights but to BOXING in General, I'm going to argue against that.

      So someone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me how that proves that I'm a Floyd hater?

      I dont want to read any of this, "OH WELL YOUS AN UNDERCOVER HATA DOG YA PRETEND TO BE A FAN BUT YOUS JUST A HATA IN REAL LIFE DOG"

      Thats the problem with Floyd Boyz. You are either a GROUPIE who IDOLIZES and defend/justify EVERYTHING Floyd does oe your a Hata. There is no in between. Its only black and white and it hurts them everytime they see criticism.

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      • Horus
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        #43
        Originally posted by 2501
        of course cotto fans are just as rabid as floyd fans, but do the research here, you'll see who actually takes it too far. cotto might not ever compare floyd career wise, but that shouldnt be the reason why the fight shouldnt happen right?
        I address this before...


        If you look at it.....


        PEOPLE PUT STANDARDS ON FLOYD THAT NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAD TO LIVE UP TOO...

        For People to consider Floyd being in a Fair Fight....

        1. The Guy has to be bigger than Floyd
        2. Cant be the Same Size Height and weight
        3. Floyd cant fight nobody Smaller than him under no circumstances
        4. Floyd cannot fight no bigger fighters in higher weight division who are not ranked at least #1 or #2 in the division...FOR IT TO BE CONSIDER A REAL CHALLENGE
        i.e (Pacquiao vs. David Diaz)

        WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS are Those to put on a Fighter....

        for example If Floyd fought Felix Sturm right now for the middle weight title I bet people will give Floyd ****.....Saying that this is not a fair fight....
        not taking into account that, that would be Floyd's 6Th weight class and Him fighting The WBA Champion.. and also Floyd would also probably be outweigh.... by 20 pounds come fight night night..!!



        The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

        For example....
        What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
        Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....


        before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

        Would that be unreasonable...
        Because Cotto started @ 140
        so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
        and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

        How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

        But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

        BUT SOME COTTO FANS ACT LIKE NONE OF THAT MEANS ****...!!! AS IF COTTO COULD DO IT...!!!

        He came from 130
        and has gotten titles from
        130
        135
        140
        147
        154
        While Staying Undefeated....
        NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS....!!! NOT ONE

        Not
        Sugar Ray L, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell, Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Willy Pep, Roy Jones,
        Sugar Ray Robinson....NOBODY....



        This is why Floyd Fans say Thats when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest


        And this is also WHY FLOYD Fans cant understand why Some Cotto's FANS would KNOCK FLOYD RESUME as if Cotto could do it....

        and some even ACT LIKE COTTO IS BETTER THAN FLOYD WHEN IT COMES TO ACCOMPLISHMENTS ....IT'S CRAZY....

        ALL FLOYDS FANS WANT IS FOR COTTO FANS AND OTHER FANS TO SHOW SOME RESPECT
        ...
        ....

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          #44
          Originally posted by Horus
          I address this before...


          If you look at it.....


          PEOPLE PUT STANDARDS ON FLOYD THAT NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAD TO LIVE UP TOO...

          For People to consider Floyd being in a Fair Fight....

          1. The Guy has to be bigger than Floyd
          2. Cant be the Same Size Height and weight
          3. Floyd cant fight nobody Smaller than him under no circumstances
          4. Floyd cannot fight no bigger fighters in higher weight division who are not ranked at least #1 or #2 in the division...FOR IT TO BE CONSIDER A REAL CHALLENGE
          i.e (Pacquiao vs. David Diaz)

          WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS are Those to put on a Fighter....

          for example If Floyd fought Felix Sturm right now for the middle weight title I bet people will give Floyd ****.....Saying that this is not a fair fight....
          not taking into account that, that would be Floyd's 6Th weight class and Him fighting The WBA Champion.. and also Floyd would also probably be outweigh.... by 20 pounds come fight night night..!!



          The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

          For example....
          What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
          Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....


          before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

          Would that be unreasonable...
          Because Cotto started @ 140
          so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
          and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

          How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

          But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

          BUT SOME COTTO FANS ACT LIKE NONE OF THAT MEANS ****...!!! AS IF COTTO COULD DO IT...!!!

          He came from 130
          and has gotten titles from
          130
          135
          140
          147
          154
          While Staying Undefeated....
          NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS....!!! NOT ONE

          Not
          Sugar Ray L, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell, Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Willy Pep, Roy Jones,
          Sugar Ray Robinson....NOBODY....



          This is why Floyd Fans say Thats when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest


          And this is also WHY FLOYD Fans cant understand why Some Cotto's FANS would KNOCK FLOYD RESUME as if Cotto could do it....

          and some even ACT LIKE COTTO IS BETTER THAN FLOYD WHEN IT COMES TO ACCOMPLISHMENTS ....IT'S CRAZY....

          ALL FLOYDS FANS WANT IS FOR COTTO FANS AND OTHER FANS TO SHOW SOME RESPECT
          ...
          ....
          dude i can only read your posts like that so many times a day. i SWEAR i will read them if you just type them normal.

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          • Horus
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            #45
            Originally posted by 2501
            dude i can only read your posts like that so many times a day. i SWEAR i will read them if you just type them normal.

            The focus of that post was this:


            The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

            For example....
            What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
            Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....


            before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

            Would that be unreasonable...
            Because Cotto started @ 140
            so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
            and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

            How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

            But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

            BUT SOME COTTO FANS ACT LIKE NONE OF THAT MEANS ****...!!! AS IF COTTO COULD DO IT...!!!

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              upinurgirlsguts
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              #46
              Originally posted by Horus

              The focus of that post was this:


              The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

              For example....
              What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
              Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....


              before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

              Would that be unreasonable...
              Because Cotto started @ 140
              so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
              and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

              How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

              But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

              BUT SOME COTTO FANS ACT LIKE NONE OF THAT MEANS ****...!!! AS IF COTTO COULD DO IT...!!!
              but every generation has that one fighter who is EXCEPTIONAL know what I'm saying? every generation has that one fighter who is able to achieve what other fighters cant and this generation's fighter is Floyd. I agree that people expect TOO much from Floyd at times. I'm one of those people. But just like each exceptional fighter from each generation has fought who the media, fans and the world considers to be the best fight, Floyd should do the same regardless of the opponents accomplishment. Cotto IS that fighter. Now, you are currently measuring the worth of the perfect opponent for Floyd by accomplishments right? Who in boxing right now is more deserving than Cotto based on what they have accomplished?

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              • Horus
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                #47
                Originally posted by 2501
                but every generation has that one fighter who is EXCEPTIONAL know what I'm saying? every generation has that one fighter who is able to achieve what other fighters cant and this generation's fighter is Floyd. I agree that people expect TOO much from Floyd at times. I'm one of those people. But just like each exceptional fighter from each generation has fought who the media, fans and the world considers to be the best fight, Floyd should do the same regardless of the opponents accomplishment. Cotto IS that fighter. Now, you are currently measuring the worth of the perfect opponent for Floyd by accomplishments right? Who in boxing right now is more deserving than Cotto based on what they have accomplished?
                Who in boxing right now is more deserving than Cotto based on what they have accomplished...?


                In his weight Class....????

                or

                In general...

                Because in general I could name at least 3 people off the top...

                1. Pacquaio
                2. De la Hoya
                3. Winky Wright

                That's if we are going off what they accomplished

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Horus
                  I address this before...


                  If you look at it.....


                  PEOPLE PUT STANDARDS ON FLOYD THAT NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAD TO LIVE UP TOO...

                  For People to consider Floyd being in a Fair Fight....

                  1. The Guy has to be bigger than Floyd
                  2. Cant be the Same Size Height and weight
                  3. Floyd cant fight nobody Smaller than him under no circumstances
                  4. Floyd cannot fight no bigger fighters in higher weight division who are not ranked at least #1 or #2 in the division...FOR IT TO BE CONSIDER A REAL CHALLENGE
                  i.e (Pacquiao vs. David Diaz)

                  WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS are Those to put on a Fighter....

                  for example If Floyd fought Felix Sturm right now for the middle weight title I bet people will give Floyd ****.....Saying that this is not a fair fight....
                  not taking into account that, that would be Floyd's 6Th weight class and Him fighting The WBA Champion.. and also Floyd would also probably be outweigh.... by 20 pounds come fight night night..!!



                  The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....

                  For example....
                  What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
                  Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....


                  before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....

                  Would that be unreasonable...
                  Because Cotto started @ 140
                  so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
                  and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....

                  How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......

                  But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...

                  BUT SOME COTTO FANS ACT LIKE NONE OF THAT MEANS ****...!!! AS IF COTTO COULD DO IT...!!!

                  He came from 130
                  and has gotten titles from
                  130
                  135
                  140
                  147
                  154
                  While Staying Undefeated....
                  NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS....!!! NOT ONE

                  Not
                  Sugar Ray L, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell, Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Willy Pep, Roy Jones,
                  Sugar Ray Robinson....NOBODY....



                  This is why Floyd Fans say Thats when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest


                  And this is also WHY FLOYD Fans cant understand why Some Cotto's FANS would KNOCK FLOYD RESUME as if Cotto could do it....

                  and some even ACT LIKE COTTO IS BETTER THAN FLOYD WHEN IT COMES TO ACCOMPLISHMENTS ....IT'S CRAZY....

                  ALL FLOYDS FANS WANT IS FOR COTTO FANS AND OTHER FANS TO SHOW SOME RESPECT
                  ...
                  ....
                  how long did it take you to type that?

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                  • Vladimir303
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by 2501
                    He hasnt signed the contract because he wants to create more suspense for the fight! He wants people to question his integrity and heart so that when the fight gets signed and made, it will be BIGGER! Think about it, EVERYONE is talking about how the fight isnt signed yet and all that means is more attention and therefore PROMOTION!! Cotto = Genius!

                    watch the floyd boyz call bull**** even though floyd pulls the same **** and its "brilliant marketing" when he does it
                    It could be. And I've said this about Floyd many times. He is building the anticipation by avoiding Cotto so when it does get signed.....it will be bigger and better.

                    Had Cotto signed immediately, there would be nothing to talk about until one week away from the fight.

                    Who knows, maybe he is concious about his low rating against Gomez and wants to make up for it with a big PPV number.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by vladimir303
                      It could be. And I've said this about Floyd many times. He is building the anticipation by avoiding Cotto so when it does get signed.....it will be bigger and better.

                      Had Cotto signed immediately, there would be nothing to talk about until one week away from the fight.

                      Who knows, maybe he is concious about his low rating against Gomez and wants to make up for it with a big PPV number.
                      theres always a possibility, but i truly feel he is holding out for more money because of the risk involved in this fight. if he were to lose, its a hard climb back to the level he is at right now.

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