Who would expose Valuev the worst as a boxer? Haye or Klitchko?

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  • SnoopySmurf
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    #11
    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
    Yes.. But he has also Improved incredibly as a boxer in his last few fights.. His Jab is suddenly quite good.. and somewhat ramrod hard.. His Chin is iron.. and when he leans on you.. it wears you down...

    Like I said.. This needs to stop... Let the man prove a few things.. before you go off calling him the GOAT...
    Never said Haye was the greatest. This is my first thread i ever mentioned Haye in. He's got the fundementals down just like Valuev...but Haye is far better. Valuev should have lost to Larry Donald. After I saw that fight, he's just not a proven boxer to me.

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    • DA1CATAS
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      #12
      Man i gott see haye fight a heavyweight first..........

      he has the moves but i dunno.

      Klitchsko would beat him i think... especially if he comes in aggressive.

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      • sparked_85
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        #13
        Haye might panic against Valuev if he can't knock him out.

        Which will probably happen, I don't think he will ever be knocked out. Look at that head.

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        • Welter_Skelter
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          #14
          Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
          Never said Haye was the greatest. This is my first thread i ever mentioned Haye in. He's got the fundementals down just like Valuev...but Haye is far better. Valuev should have lost to Larry Donald. After I saw that fight, he's just not a proven boxer to me.
          I am also not Dissing Haye.. Just saying he hasn't really fought at this level before.. SO Until he shows me something..I dont like his chances..

          My point of course was.. SInce the Donald fight.. valuev has improved by leaps and bounds.. His size is no longer his only asset...

          The Valuev of today.. would have kayoed Donald within 6 rounds..

          You need to see his last 2 fights and forget about 3 years ago.. things change..

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          • MELLY-MEL...
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            #15
            dunno man, valuev has a good jab, very good stamina, and very good chin. he is awkward, and a bit plodding, but he is not nearly as bad as many claim. in this era he can hang with anyone. he has never been hurt from what i have seen. i would not count him out.

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            • duffgun
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              #16
              Haye vs Valuev would be an intresting fight. as would wlad vs valuev

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              • WLAD OWNS
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                #17
                I think Valuev would KO Haye, the iron chinned Valuev would walk through the smaller Haye's shots and overwhelm him...The Gaymaker keeps his left hand too low, has ****ty defense, a glass chin and poor stamina...Valuev would expose Haye's weaknesses and knock him out.

                As for Wlad vs Valuev....Wlad would outclass Valuev and win rather easily.
                Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 05-06-2008, 10:22 AM.

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                • The Hammer
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                  Larry Donald.
                  Donald had an excellent chin and good stamina, Haye does not.

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                  • Pugilistic™
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                    #19
                    wlad klitschko, would be awesome seeing a guy that big getting ko'd

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                    • rusticraver
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                      #20
                      Valuevs ****, he belogns in a freakshow.

                      You dont win fights being big.

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