Did Mosley have a better chance at beating Cotto than Margarito does?

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  • KingTito
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    #1

    Did Mosley have a better chance at beating Cotto than Margarito does?

    Be honest. What do you guys think. I think Mosley is much more complete fighter. Margarito is bigger and stronger sure, but he doesn't have the skill set that Mosley has. I do think that Margarito is a tough fight, but what do you guys think?
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    #2
    Originally posted by KingTito
    Be honest. What do you guys think. I think Mosley is much more complete fighter. Margarito is bigger and stronger sure, but he doesn't have the skill set that Mosley has. I do think that Margarito is a tough fight, but what do you guys think?
    I think Cotto is more of a skilled fighter, I do see Marg being a bite of more trouble.

    It'll be a must see fight, with that being said, Cotto Via a SD...

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    • C'MONMANG'
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      #3
      Originally posted by KingTito
      Be honest. What do you guys think. I think Mosley is much more complete fighter. Margarito is bigger and stronger sure, but he doesn't have the skill set that Mosley has. I do think that Margarito is a tough fight, but what do you guys think?
      I agree, Mosley is more complete and he showed up in the late rounds and pressured Cotto. Cotto seemed to adapt well. I think that there are two things that can work towards MARG favor, one is Cotto decides at anypoint to stand infront of MARG..or Marg'S CONSTANT pressure playing a factor late in the fight. Cotto showed he can very versatile more so then MArg.

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      • cupcrazy01
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        Mosley has not shown any real power since 2001, and very little above 135 lbs for that matter. I think everyone will agree that you can throw out the one knockout of Vargas (the other was a swollen eye, remember, Vargas was never hurt in the first fight).

        Above 135 aside from Vargas, all he has are stoppages of middling contenders. He never hurt DLH, Forrest, Winky, Marquez, Estrada, Cruz or Collazo. Or Cotto, for that matter.

        Margarito has a better chance simply because he could overwhem Cotto with activity, something he has never had to deal with. Judah and Mosley didn't throw enough, Malignaggi can't punch, and most of the others tried to box him and didn't press the issue. The exception of course is Torres, who hurt him and had him down, and though that was a different Cotto at 140, it's conceivable the aggregate damage Margarito inflicts could slow him down and conceivably stop him.

        But, I officially stopped picking against Cotto after the Quintana fight, because he took some flush shots and looked rejuvenated at 147. I don't think Marg will stop him, but that doesn't mean he can't.

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          #5
          DLH's quote on the Cotto-Margarito fight was priceless, saying "Anything can happen, but we all know that Cotto is going to win."

          As ridiculous as that quote is--not to mention somewhat illogical--I agree with it 100%. That's the thing about Cotto, people still think of him as the 140 lb fighter with a questionable chin, but at the end of the day when the bell rings, he's a different animal at 147, and he has been very impressive.

          So while I give Margarito a big chance to win this fight, I think most will favor Cotto to triumph. He won't stop Margarito though, I don't think anyone can unless it's on cuts.

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            I think Margarito will be able to test Cotto in ways that the top fighters Cotto has faced has not been able to, look at the progress Mosley had in comming forward and moving Cotto back.
            Hell even Judah was able to do this in spots against Cotto and looked decent in doing so. Margarito is full time come forward fighter, meaning you will see him pressure Miguel and with that power and chin of his, I think its enough to break Cotto down and get him out of there early.

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            • Kilrain
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              Shane looked as if he'd pose stylistic problems for Cotto with his speed, which had worked in spurts for Zab, and his combination punching and stamina, but Cotto adapted. Against Margarito he might have to adapt again, like he did quite a few years back when he fought Lovemore N'Dou and N'Dou took his shots and kept coming; on that occasion Miguel had to revert almost to his amatuer style and box out the last five or six rounds on the retreat. Because it'll be real tough to go blow for blow with someone as big and strong as Antonio.

              I think a lot of people have overlooked the Paul Williams fight though. He outpunched Margarito in many ways, he had the speed advantage and he sat down on his shots. Tony isn't difficult to hit. And being an open target is not good when you're fighting someone like Miguel.

              If they go nose to nose and war it out I genuinely think this could go either way, but as the previous poster said, I've learned to pick against Miguel, and there's no doubting he has greater talent so I'd have to favour him

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              • Run
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                #8
                Originally posted by KingTito
                Be honest. What do you guys think. I think Mosley is much more complete fighter. Margarito is bigger and stronger sure, but he doesn't have the skill set that Mosley has. I do think that Margarito is a tough fight, but what do you guys think?
                I don't think that "skillset" has anything to do with assessing how Tony fights against Cotto relative to how Mosley did.

                Considering Margarito has never featured a skillset, and relies on his size and natural strength advantage, work rate, tenacity and durability to win fights.

                To answer the question lol I'd say no.

                Mosley is past his prime, and in fact was never a true WW or above.



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                • ferocity
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                  Differnt styles is what it comes down too.

                  Imo, had Mosley started faster he would have won, as it is its a fight that could have gone either way.

                  Margarito hits just as hard as Mosely but his shots are more repetitive and come in bunchs. Mosely flurries very little, Margarito just bombs you with 3-5 shots almost all the time.

                  Margarito has the better chin, all Mosely has is his set of boxing skills and speed over Margarito. Marg would beat Mosley. We've seen Mosely have trouble with the taller fighters and i don't think he's faced someone like Margarito.

                  It is known that Mosley turned down a fight with Margarito and even Mosley has made it known that Margarito is a good fighter.

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                  • Run
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kilrain
                    I think a lot of people have overlooked the Paul Williams fight though. He outpunched Margarito in many ways, he had the speed advantage and he sat down on his shots. Tony isn't difficult to hit. And being an open target is not good when you're fighting someone like Miguel.
                    Yeah that was also one of the most uncharacteristic Margarito fights in the history of his career. He didn't throw the normal 1000+ punches and in fact spent the time loading up on shots late in the fight..when Williams faded.

                    Williams in fact threw 1300 punches, something that is just ridiculous and usually reserved for someone like Tony or maybe a Ray Olivera.

                    Cotto doesn't throw that many punches, and in fact is more of the pot shot master now. That's fine and that scores points.

                    But that jab isn't going to scratch let alone dent Tony........nor is his left hook. Cotto won't be able to earn his respect and if he did in fact fade against an older Mosley (Who spent most of the later half of the fight stalking Cotto around looking for the big punch) there's no way he gets off the hook against someone who is going to throw 1000+ punches this time.

                    Clubbing and chopping punches can hurt Cotto. We've seen this in the past, and Cotto himself is no defensive master. lol while everyone is discussing how Margarito gets hit.........I'd like to point out that he's not the cardiac fighter here. Cotto is..........he gets floored and wins fight with his heart alone.



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