The Myth Of Jones Vs Hopkins

[The Noose]

Look at their records. Jones had 21 fights, Hopkins had 23 fights.

It wasnt a great Jones vs a 'green' Hopkins. Jones was 'greener' but still won with ease.

Also i think Calzaghe isnt the fighter he used to be. Hes more experienced but isnt as fast, powerful or explosive as he once was. People make out like Calzaghe is in his prime because they havent seen his earlier fights, pre-Lacy.
Different fighters age differently. Hopkins is still amazing for his age, other fighters burn out quickly.


And for the record, id like to see Hopkins vs Jones, and Calzaghe vs Pavlik.

Hopkins vs Jones would be a huge fight, eventhough they are both old bastards.

[Guest]

The fundamental mistake you are making that even then Roy Jones was vastly more experienced than Hopkins. I mean Roy was junior olympic champ as early as 1984, won many amateur titles and should have won gold in the Olympics in 1988

He had 134 amateur fights versus BHop's prison career and one fight loss in 1988.

Just because Hop had 2 more professional fights at the time, doesn't mean anything.

Roy was fighting all around the world while Hop was in prison.

By the time they fought Hops was seriously green compared to Jones in boxing experience.

[Hagler★]

^^^ you make good points and have just killed off the arguement green k your way

[Rkicards]

Roy Jones looked **** against Hopkins in 1993. Like every fighter does that Hopkins fight against. He didn't land even one single good solid shot that hurt Hopkins., Just jabbed on the outside for 12 rounds.

[The Noose]

The fundamental mistake you are making that even then Roy Jones was vastly more experienced than Hopkins. I mean Roy was junior olympic champ as early as 1984, won many amateur titles and should have won gold in the Olympics in 1988

He had 134 amateur fights versus BHop's prison career and one fight loss in 1988.

Just because Hop had 2 more professional fights at the time, doesn't mean anything.

Roy was fighting all around the world while Hop was in prison.

By the time they fought Hops was seriously green compared to Jones in boxing experience.

Oh...i knew that!


(i believe ive been 'owned')

[Guest]

Good post. Calzaghe used to destroy his opponents, and he's unable to to that at age 36. He's actually as much past his prime, if not more, than Hopkins.

Hopkins had his own kind of "amateur" experience, having been US middleweight prison champion.

Roy was vastly more experienced though. Hop fought prisoners, Roy fought in the Olympics. Huge difference.

And Hop was actually inactive for a year and a half after his first fight, and ko'ed 11 guys in the first round so his amateur background and boxing experience pales in comparision to Jones.

I agree with the Cal part of your statement

[ferocity]

that fight ******, hopkins will tell you himself that prison boxing helped him a lot

Roy fought young men, while Hopkin fought men and if you watch "prison boxing" documentary you'll see how good boxers there are in the pen not all of them but there is some that can really fight

[Guest]

that fight ******, hopkins will tell you himself that prison boxing helped him a lot

Roy fought young men, while Hopkin fought men and if you watch "prison boxing" documentary you'll see how good boxers there are in the pen not all of them but there is some that can really fight

Keep in mind, some of those young men aren't so young. Look at any world championships or Olympics teams fighters ages. Some of those dudes are older than pro's. (mid 20's early 30's esp the Cubans)

Wasn't Cliffored Etienne and undefeated prison boxing hero? And he got annihilated more than once outside of the gates before trying to shoot cops and stuff.

No doubt some prison guys are tough, but Roy was fighting people around the world, Hops was fighting criminals.


That fight with Jones is the only time Hop ever admitted he lost, which says something.

[ferocity]

Hops was a naturally a bigger fighter he came from LIght Heavyweight and changed he whole way of live by being a vegitaring to make middlweight. Not hating but this says a lot both good and bad.

In prime Hopkins wouldn't have been able to beat Roy.

Hopkins waits, Roys waits, Roy would always step away then counter. Same thing would happen every time they fought.

[Guest]

Hops was a naturally a bigger fighter he came from LIght Heavyweight and changed he whole way of live by being a vegitaring to make middlweight. Not hating but this says a lot both good and bad.

In prime Hopkins wouldn't have been able to beat Roy.

Hopkins waits, Roys waits, Roy would always step away then counter. Same thing would happen every time they fought.

I agree completely with this.