Rulebook For Claiming Robbery

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  • Fox McCloud
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    Rulebook For Claiming Robbery

    Since everyone seems to think that every close fight is a robbery (and blatantly incorrectly so), I figured I would put a rulebook together to let everyone know when to use the word and when not to. Just a reminder to everyone that robbery means that someone intentionally took the fight away from the winner. That means a robbery cannot be based on someone being an idiot and not knowing how to effectively judge. The argument "Harold Lederman" can't score for ****, is not an effective defense for claiming robbery.

    1. The fighter who is "robbed" has to win at least 7 rounds beyond any doubt whatsoever (barring any knockdowns or point deductions). These rounds that are won beyond any certainty are going to be called "lock rounds". This means that if there is any argument whatsoever that a certain fighter won the round at all, then it can't be used as a lock round.

    2. You cannot watch and score the fight in question on sopcast. You need to have an actual, clear, unobstructed view of the fight to make such a bold statement.

    3. Harold Lederman cannot agree with the judging panel if it is a robbery. Since the judging panel would need to intentionally take the fight away from a fighter, they would obviously be motivated against that person. Why the **** would Harold Lederman be motivated to rob someone when his scorecard doesn't mean anything? This also rings true for Showtime's press row scoring.

    4. You have to have seen all 3 minutes of all 12 rounds in order to make a call on whether it is a robbery or not. For all you know, the 8th round that you missed was a 10-8 round against the guy you thought won. No judging may be made based on highlight videos either.

    5. A knockdown is not an automatic victory. Just because one fighter got their ass kicked for one of the 12 rounds does not mean that they automatically lose the fight. Saying "How could Pacquiao lose? Did you see what he did to Marquez in the first round?" makes you an idiot. A 10-6 round can easily be negated by 4 10-9 rounds the other way. That would give a score of 46-46, and there are still 7 rounds to go.

    With that said, quit ****ing calling every fight a robbery. Pavlik-Taylor II was not a robbery. Calzaghe-Hopkins was not a robbery. Casamayor-Santa Cruz was a robbery. See the difference?
    Last edited by Fox McCloud; 04-26-2008, 12:52 AM.
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    Excellent post, but could do with some more expanded rules. Lol, if people followed this, imagine how much less spam there would be on these boards!

    4. In order to call robbery, you must have seen the fight in its entirety.

    I think that is a very vaild one, especially for an internet community.

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    • Fox McCloud
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      #3
      Originally posted by Slotff
      Excellent post, but could do with some more expanded rules. Lol, if people followed this, imagine how much less spam there would be on these boards!

      4. In order to call robbery, you must have seen the fight in its entirety.

      I think that is a very vaild one, especially for an internet community.
      Lol, god it is absurd that I have to put that down, but you are right, I'm sure a random Floyd fan claimed that Collazo got robbed against Hatton without having seen the fight.

      I will expand my rulebook as more posts come in. I am actually totally serious about people following this. It annoys me more than anything to hear that "Vernon Forrest got robbed against Ricardo Mayorga in the rematch!"

      As much as I would like to agree, since Forrest is my favorite, I have to say "No cabron, he didn't."

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        #4
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Lol, god it is absurd that I have to put that down, but you are right, I'm sure a random Floyd fan claimed that Collazo got robbed against Hatton without having seen the fight.

        I will expand my rulebook as more posts come in. I am actually totally serious about people following this. It annoys me more than anything to hear that "Vernon Forrest got robbed against Ricardo Mayorga in the rematch!"

        As much as I would like to agree, since Forrest is my favorite, I have to say "No cabron, he didn't."
        I hear ya man, its painful when people cry robbery at the dumbest stuff. I remember when Malignaggi-Ngoudjo happened everyone called it a robbery and claimed that since Ngoudjo wobbled Malignaggi bad a few times in the 7th or whatever that he deserved to win the fight. So in relation to #4 there should be something like:

        5. While it can make a difference, one 10-8 round does not automatically negate multiple rounds won 10-9 due to clean, effective boxing.

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        • Steak
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          #5
          when people say that the fight is a robbery, most people dont actually think that. In reality, they just thought that the other guy won, and want to talk about it with others.

          what gets your attention more and makes you want to discuss the fight more...

          "I thought he deserved the decision"
          or
          "He was ****ing robbed blind"

          Its going to be the second option. I dont think Ive ever really used the word robbery, but honestly I believe thats why a lot of people do it. I could care less when they did it, because its just an excuse to discuss the scoring of the fight in depth, and if I get tired of it, I simply leave the forum. not a big deal.
          if you want to look on the bright side, just look at boxing fans as very passionate people. haha

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          • Slotff
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            #6
            This thread should be treated like the Holy Bible.

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            • Burner
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              Hopkins vs. Calzaghe was a robberry.

              Something needs to be said for the myth of the 232 punches landed bull****...that pitty pat ****ty...arm punches...rabbitt puches...ugh makes me sick to be a fan.

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              • Scott9945
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                #8
                I agree with this thread, especially about anyone who claims robbery based on a sopcast viewing. Sopcast is better than radio, but that's about it.

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                • Fox McCloud
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Burner
                  Hopkins vs. Calzaghe was a robberry.

                  Something needs to be said for the myth of the 232 punches landed bull****...that pitty pat ****ty...arm punches...rabbitt puches...ugh makes me sick to be a fan.


                  Some judges like a volume of punches compared to power/effectiveness of a few punches.

                  NOT a robbery, at all.

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Burner
                    Hopkins vs. Calzaghe was a robberry.

                    Something needs to be said for the myth of the 232 punches landed bull****...that pitty pat ****ty...arm punches...rabbitt puches...ugh makes me sick to be a fan.
                    Please name me 7 rounds that Hopkins clearly won.

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