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  • mathed
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    #12961
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    What rounds did Dzin win? If they release punch stats, Vera probably out landed him in every round except maybe the 9th. The scoring was close in like 2 rounds, and that was because Dzin did much better then in the previous few round when he was getting hammered

    Effective Punches landed wins fights, not pitty patty jab and especially not fancy cute footwork. People need to stop giving these "boxers'' like Paulie, Judah and Dzin fights when they run around throwing jabs while getting hammered in return
    Nah man, it wasn't close...at one point they said Dzinz was landing almost 50% of his punches. Vera was around 18%

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      #12962
      Vera has 9 lives. He's managed to win a lot of these little upsets. Gotta respect him for that. Dzindruk might want to call it a career. Or maybe he was never that good?

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #12963
        Originally posted by mathed
        Nah man, it wasn't close...at one point they said Dzinz was landing almost 50% of his punches. Vera was around 18%
        It was pretty clear who was landing more blows and who was landing the more telling blows, you shouldn't need punch stats to tell you that. They weren't the same guy~

        The guy who landed the better blows won and should have been ahead by a point or two when it was stopped.

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        • Russian Crushin
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          #12964
          Originally posted by mathed
          Nah man, it wasn't close...at one point they said Dzinz was landing almost 50% of his punches. Vera was around 18%
          What?? Im pretty sure you miss heard. In the 7th round they showed punch stats and Vera was like 133 of 552 and Dzin was 111 0f 398.

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            #12965
            Originally posted by Russian Crushin
            What rounds did Dzin win? If they release punch stats, Vera probably out landed him in every round except maybe the 9th. The scoring was close in like 2 rounds, and that was because Dzin did much better then in the previous few round when he was getting hammered

            Effective Punches landed wins fights, not pitty patty jab and especially not fancy cute footwork. People need to stop giving these "boxers'' like Paulie, Judah and Dzin fights when they run around throwing jabs while getting hammered in return
            are you saying it's not good boxing to take huge bombs on the chin over and over?

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              #12966
              Vera inflicted more punishment and caused more damage. On top of that he broke Dzinziruk's will and made him quit.

              He was clearly the better man tonight if you ask me.

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                #12967
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                Thank you. Vera was winning the fight, mainly on the strength of the two knockdowns in the first. If Brian had a normal, 10-9 first round, the fight might've easily been either knotted up or even in Dzinziruk's favor. Props to Vera, but that fight was up for grabs before the TKO.
                I wasn't scoring because I loathe this ****** sort of debate, but there ain't no way Vera was dominating the fight.

                I agree that the fight was fairly close when the stoppage occurred although Vera should have been ahead, it is not like he was killing it.

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                • CubanGuyNYC
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                  #12968
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  What rounds did Dzin win? If they release punch stats, Vera probably out landed him in every round except maybe the 9th. The scoring was close in like 2 rounds, and that was because Dzin did much better then in the previous few round when he was getting hammered

                  Effective Punches landed wins fights, not pitty patty jab and especially not fancy cute footwork. People need to stop giving these "boxers'' like Paulie, Judah and Dzin fights when they run around throwing jabs while getting hammered in return
                  I wasn't writing down my scores. I remember giving Dzin 2,3 and 9, at least.

                  If an equal number of punches are landed in the same round and one guy lands the harder shots, he should certainly be awarded the round; but you clearly have a bias towards light punchers with good footwork.

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                  • mathed
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                    #12969
                    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                    What?? Im pretty sure you miss heard. In the 7th round they showed punch stats and Vera was like 133 of 552 and Dzin was 111 0f 398.
                    Those were the numbers in one particular round (what I referenced in my post). Based on what they were doing up until round 7, based on your figures, Dzinz had landed 28% of his punches while Vera had landed 24%.

                    You said that the only round that Dzinz outlanded Vera was the 9th...the stats disagree as early as the 7th...............just saying.
                    Last edited by mathed; 01-25-2013, 11:50 PM.

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                      #12970
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      Thank you. Vera was winning the fight, mainly on the strength of the two knockdowns in the first. If Brian had a normal, 10-9 first round, the fight might've easily been either knotted up or even in Dzinziruk's favor. Props to Vera, but that fight was up for grabs before the TKO.
                      Did you miss Dzin getting beat up in the other 9 rounds?

                      Dzin jabs landed, but in no way were they effective. He landed a jab or 2 going back wards and then took a bomb or 2 in return. This is not effective "boxing". Isnt "Boxing" all about making them miss while hitting them?

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