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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #12941
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    Which was when? Only time was the 9th i think and every other round was close or Vera's. Flicking the jab a few times and taking bombs in return is not outclassing.

    Running around flicking jabs is only outboxing when the other guy isnt beating your face in
    Dude, Vera is a caveman. He was missing a whole lot more than he was landing. Dzinziruk was outboxing him whenever he decided to keep off the ropes. What Brian had going for him is that when he landed, he did damage. Power counts, but landing punches does also. It has to be balanced. You obviously place very high value on a good shot. That fight was close. If it wasn't for the first, the fight might've been in Sergei's favor.

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    • mathed
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      #12942
      Originally posted by Russian Crushin
      Dzin is not his "prime" self, whenever that was, but he's not that good either. Vera gives him a good fight at any point of his career.

      Dzin is and always was a decent at best fighter
      I think the Martinez loss ruined him personally. Never got knocked down even once as a pro then takes 5 KD's in one fight. To become almost 40-0, you have to have skill regardless of who you are fighting. I mean it's not like he fought complete cans his whole career.

      I just noticed a dramatic decline after that Martinez fight...whether it was the loss or not, he declined after that fight.

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      • kiaba360
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        #12943
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor
        Me n kiaba will go head and take those propers we're owed.
        I second that. Come on mathed, it was only 500M lol


        For all of Vera's deficiencies, he has Rios-type determination. That kind of fighter remains dangerous until the final bell. Dzinziruk doesn't belong at MW, isn't great defensively and isn't built to go toe-to-toe. Dzinzi looked like Bute as he retreated to the ropes, very bad habit against a pressure fighter.
        Last edited by kiaba360; 01-25-2013, 11:25 PM.

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #12944
          Originally posted by -BORICUA-
          Lol he was at least a lil bit better than prime rocky. That's why they call him the CaveMan lmfao!
          Is that really his nickname? lmao How fitting....

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          • Russian Crushin
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            #12945
            Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
            Dude, Vera is a caveman. He was missing a whole lot more than he was landing. Dzinziruk was outboxing him whenever he decided to keep off the ropes. What Brian had going for him is that when he landed, he did damage. Power counts, but landing punches does also. It has to be balanced. You obviously place very high value on a good shot.
            Its not punches that missed that win fights, its the ones that land. Vera landed more and they were MUCH harder and more effective.

            Ok i agree with you landing punches counts too, and Vera landed more, probably way more

            Vera landed more shots and the better shots, what more do you need to win a fight?

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #12946
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              Is that really his nickname? lmao How fitting....
              No but that should be his nickname, lol

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              • Snake...
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                #12947
                Originally posted by mathed
                I think the Martinez loss ruined him personally. Never got knocked down even once as a pro then takes 5 KD's in one fight. To become almost 40-0, you have to have skill regardless of who you are fighting. I mean it's not like he fought complete cans his whole career.

                I just noticed a dramatic decline after that Martinez fight...whether it was the loss or not, he declined after that fight.

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                • daggum
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                  #12948
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  I think the Martinez loss ruined him personally. Never got knocked down even once as a pro then takes 5 KD's in one fight. To become almost 40-0, you have to have skill regardless of who you are fighting. I mean it's not like he fought complete cans his whole career.

                  I just noticed a dramatic decline after that Martinez fight...whether it was the loss or not, he declined after that fight.
                  well he should have lost to konecy but he was "undefeated" in spirit. also it is amazing that a guy who is physically unable to move his head was never knocked down until he fought martinez.

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                  • Russian Crushin
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                    #12949
                    Originally posted by mathed
                    I think the Martinez loss ruined him personally. Never got knocked down even once as a pro then takes 5 KD's in one fight. To become almost 40-0, you have to have skill regardless of who you are fighting. I mean it's not like he fought complete cans his whole career.

                    I just noticed a dramatic decline after that Martinez fight...whether it was the loss or not, he declined after that fight.
                    He was ruined before Sergio AKA not that good. Anybody who followed him before Sergio knows he's decent, and thats where it ends

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                    • -DSG-
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                      #12950
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      Is that really his nickname? lmao How fitting....
                      Nah but I think teddy or joe called him a caveman.

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