Calzaghe: "Jones is a Legend, Not Hopkins"

[THE REED]

If Hopkins aint a legend, then Joe shouldn't call himself a Legend Killer then. smh

hahaha true.



do all you people realize im probably the happiest person on this forum

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Hopkins is a good fighter but his middleweight reign lasted for as long as it did because of the complete lack of real quality opposition. If Hopkins had come up as middleweight during the mid 70's or early 80's during Hagler's reign he'd have a difficult time cracking even the top 5. He was a good middleweight champion but hardly a legend, heck he lost to an inexperienced protected fluff fighter named Jermain Taylor twice. Yeah he's a legend alright ....in his own mind..

That being said I don't think Joe Calzaghe is a legend either and he has a better record...Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Robinson not those were more than good champions... THEY WERE AND ARE LEGENDS

Which middleweights, outside of Hagler, during his reign do you think Hopkins loses to? Minter? Antufermo? Hamsho was a very good middleweight, but I don't think he beats Hopkins.

Hopkins, when his workrate slowed at an older age, lost to Taylor. And Hagler, past his prime, lost to a natural welterweight in Leonard who hadn't fought in 3 years, and just once in 5 years (and looked lousy in that one fight).

[ferocity]

What BS....

Tarver? Glenn Johnson?!?! lol

They arent in Hopkins league, what makes you think people will respect Joe more?

Joe could beat Dawson, Johnson, Tarver but the man to beat was Hopkins and he did that.

IF he wants to leave no doubt, then he fights the young lion in Dawson, and the former elite in Tarver, and the former champion road warrior in Johnson. Then there is no doubt of his legitimacy. Or Tarver then Dawson would be fine, since Dawson beat Johsnson.

[THE REED]

Which middleweights, outside of Hagler, during his reign do you think Hopkins loses to? Minter? Antufermo? Hamsho was a very good middleweight, but I don't think he beats Hopkins.

Hopkins, when his workrate slowed at an older age, lost to Taylor. And Hagler, past his prime, lost to a natural welterweight in Leonard who hadn't fought in 3 years, and just once in 5 years (and looked lousy in that one fight).

i always get you confused with wlad owns.. one guys knows what hes talking about and the other is an idiot... guess who

[hypeassasian]

Hopkins is a good fighter but his middleweight reign lasted for as long as it did because of the complete lack of real quality opposition. If Hopkins had come up as middleweight during the mid 70's or early 80's during Hagler's reign he'd have a difficult time cracking even the top 5. He was a good middleweight champion but hardly a legend, heck he lost to an inexperienced protected fluff fighter named Jermain Taylor twice. Yeah he's a legend alright ....in his own mind..

Yeah at 40 years old! How old was Hagler when he was clearly slipping and retired? Oh yeah, 32 . So shut the **** up!

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i always get you confused with wlad owns.. one guys knows what hes talking about and the other is an idiot... guess who

How do you get me confused with him?

[THE REED]

How do you get me confused with him?

lol cuz you both had wlad in your avatar... i could never remember which one knew his **** and which one was a retread

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lol cuz you both had wlad in your avatar... i could never remember which one knew his **** and which one was a retread

I never had Wlad in the avatar. I had the inferior Klitschko brother, ****ali.

[The_One77]

IF he wants to leave no doubt, then he fights the young lion in Dawson, and the former elite in Tarver, and the former champion road warrior in Johnson. Then there is no doubt of his legitimacy. Or Tarver then Dawson would be fine, since Dawson beat Johsnson.

Tarver is 39 and was always a one hit wonder
Glen is 39 and has had dozens of defeats
Sure, Chad is good but who has he fought?


Calzaghe just ought to fight Kelly Pavlik

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Tarver is 39 and was always a one hit wonder
Glen is 39 and has had dozens of defeats
Sure, Chad is good but who has he fought?


Calzaghe just ought to fight Kelly Pavlik

Kelly is staying at MW and milking that for awhile