P4P whos better? Roy or Floyd

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  • robjr
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    #11
    here's yer answer....

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    • J_CON
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      #12
      Prime Jones

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      • The Texican
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        #13
        Roy was the baddest man on the planet! The same can't be said for Mayweather.

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          #14
          RJJ no doubt.

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          • Killa Cam
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            #15
            might catch some heat 4 this...**** it tho, roys a legend imo

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            • Dick-Sucker
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              #16
              Originally posted by robjr
              here's yer answer....

              That video is priceless rob. The best on youtube.

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              • pbftxrs316
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                #17
                you guys know i'm going with floyd, and again, what is his prime? imo it was when he was at 140 as far as power, speed, and accuracy with immaculate defense. he punched sharper than roy. his defense was better than roy's was. he moved more fluently. he jabbed much better than roy to the head and body. his left hook could be argued as thrown better than roy's. floyd was the total package. why do think he is considered the greatest fighter of his era? he dominated his opponents just as much as roy did, if not more. roy has him on power and maybe even handspeed as far quick combos go, but floyd was much faster overall and moved much better off of the ropes where roy was vulnerable to, and i have both of their careers on tapes and dvd's, and have watched them exstensively, so i know what i'm talking about. roy was special, amazing to watch, a conerstone in boxing history, bar none, arguably the most elusive 160-175 pound fighter i have ever seen, but floyd is boxing to the core. it's hard to compare who was better without... i have to finish this later.

                anway, like i was posting, floyd is the most fluent fighter of the past 3 decades, and it's no comparison. i watched 3 fights that floyd fought at 140, corley, gatti, and bruselles, and i haven't seen roy look in any form like mayweather did those 3 fights. floyd had it all, and had it not been for his brittle hands, i guarantee you all, he would have had much more ko's on his record. floyd was considered a big super featherweight at 130, but when he moved up, he looked smaller than majority of his opponents and he really was, but he made them look like amateur fighters, he was that good. and i take floyd's sixe into consideration when talking about him being better than roy, because roy was bigger than a lot of his opponents and floyd was smaller than a lot of his, hell more than a lot. i haven;t seen a performance from jones jr besides when he fought that argentinian dude, that has been more dominant than floyd against gatti, coralles, and corley, and floyd didn't have to rely on just his reflexes, which were on those fights also, he used his amazing blocking, upperbody postioning, faints were spectacular, counterpunching off of the ropes and making his opponent miss after a counterpunch like he did with chop chop, those things that people really don't focus on, i do in depth, and he just looked like the perfect boxer in those fights. roy has amazing reflexes, but his blocking ****** and he had one of the worst jabs i have ever seen and threw it out there like a sucker in his prime, and although it improved slightly to some degree as he moved up, overall it ******. floyd used his jab more at 130, but when he fought gatti, he used it very fluently, and he his stance was just phenomenal. floyd had the style that was un touchable, and still does. floyd threw a fast and hard snapping jab and a hard pushed jab to the stomach, and the combination he threw at gatti in the 6th round was one of the greatest i have seen of the last 40 years. floyd just knew where he was mostly at all times and his defense was 2nd to none. tell me another fighter, including roy jones that could counter a fighter with a jab to the stomach, like floyd did with justin jukko, a fight he calls his best performance ever, and i have brought this fight up many times as to him being on that night.

                roy was very risky with his style which i feel is a big reason he is adored by many today, especially on this forum, because of how dynamic he was and his unorthodox he was. he wasn't your tradtional fighter/boxer, he brougt a style that was flashy as **** and his athleticism just amazed people, but in no way was he a better athlete than floyd was, floyd's stamina lasted the whole fight, and he could fight 15 rounds i guarantee you all, because floyd's jab had the same snap it had in the 1st round in the 10th, 11th, and 12th rounds of his fights.

                floyd takes this one, because he used his style better than roy, and did everything right. floyd could do more than roy did in his prime, but roy's athleticism and dynamics kept people in awe with him and kept their minds away from his weaknesses, which he got away it because of this. floyd, although he has weaknesses also, was more fundamentally sound, which is why he was able to do what he did as he aged and it still doing it now.

                floyd takes this one easily, and this thread has been made countless amounts of time.
                Last edited by pbftxrs316; 04-24-2008, 10:51 PM.

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                • luv3s2sp00g3
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                  #18
                  Floyd has better fundamentals and is more sound, but Roy was a phenom. Classically trained vs one in a million talent. I voted roy

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                  • Sin City
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Deeznuts
                    Mayweather has been in his prime in the last couple of years, the comparison of opponents is not even comparable, Mayweather takes this hands down, u guys are in denial
                    It's hard for me to imagine Mayweather beating Jones if they were in the same weight class..

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                    • Fox McCloud
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                      #20
                      Very, very difficult to say.

                      Mayweather does seem to be bothered by very sharp punchers (the Oscar jab was a good example), and Jones punches pretty sharp.

                      Jones also made a defensive guru look terrible when he whipped James Toney's ass.

                      I'd say Jones, but in honesty, we haven't seen enough weakness from either of their prime selves to make even a partially educated guess on this one. I go Jones just because he faced less resistance in the ring during his prime.

                      And don't give me that **** about him only facing horrible fighters. The James Toney that Jones beat was considered better at the time than any fighter Mayweather has faced (as in, Toney was more respected in 1994 than Castillo was in 2002, Corrales in 2001, Hatton in 2007, etc.).

                      Very difficult question to answer.

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