Recognize A Legacy - Calzaghe

[Soundtraveler]

Last night I watched the most BORING fight since Jon Ruiz.

Of course the boards immediately lit up with a ton of "Calzaghe is the Best Ever" - some went so far as to say he is the P4P #1 - total B.S..

Lets take a look back at some of the most memorable wins of "Mighty Joe".

Obviously there is now Hopkins to "top" the list, never mind the fact that he is 43 years old. Before that he beat a tough and then Undefeated Kessler.

Add to that the victory over the "highly touted" (at least by the t.v. show The Contender) Manfredo JR.

Of course there was the Lacy butt kickin' too!

Those we all remember - but lets check out some wins that boxing fans here in the U.S. might NOT know about.

Calzaghe started off like a rocket, showing his huge power, and blowing through his opponants!!!!

He knocked out everyone including some of Great Britains' best fighters including:
Paul Hanlin 7-16-0
Spencer Alton 12-23-3
Martin Rosamond 10-15-1
Karl Barwise 14-28-3
Trevor Ambrose 10-13-0

Calzaghe then began stepping up the competition with fighters like:
Frank Minton 26-21-1
Robert Curry 33-34-0
Guy Stanford 16-11-1
Anthony Brooks 11-6-2
Pat Lawlor 21-8-0
Carlos Christie 13-22-1

The list goes on, and this is what is really wrong with the sport, but,
a smart trainer always knows he needs a "sure fire star" like Joe Calzaghe to fight for 2 years before he ever sees an opponant with a winning record, after all this is professional boxing, and it's all about the record right???

So what if nearly half of Calzeghe's career wins have been against - shall we say - "questionable talent", he is still the "all time best" in both of his divisions isn't he???

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...5364&cat=boxer

[GMitchell]

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[Sin City]

exactley.
Though I am happy he won against Nard, his record isn't anything special to me or impressive.

[Ryn0]

Bernard Hopkins
Mikkel Kessler
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Mario Veit
Byron Mitchell
Charles Brewer
Robin Reid
Omar Sheika
Chris Eubank

pretty solid resume not amazing but solid

[Tony628]

hopkins got ****d by a whiteboy

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[abadger]

Last night I watched the most BORING fight since Jon Ruiz.

Of course the boards immediately lit up with a ton of "Calzaghe is the Best Ever" - some went so far as to say he is the P4P #1 - total B.S..

Lets take a look back at some of the most memorable wins of "Mighty Joe".

Obviously there is now Hopkins to "top" the list, never mind the fact that he is 43 years old. Before that he beat a tough and then Undefeated Kessler.

Add to that the victory over the "highly touted" (at least by the t.v. show The Contender) Manfredo JR.

Of course there was the Lacy butt kickin' too!

Those we all remember - but lets check out some wins that boxing fans here in the U.S. might NOT know about.

Calzaghe started off like a rocket, showing his huge power, and blowing through his opponants!!!!

He knocked out everyone including some of Great Britains' best fighters including:
Paul Hanlin 7-16-0
Spencer Alton 12-23-3
Martin Rosamond 10-15-1
Karl Barwise 14-28-3
Trevor Ambrose 10-13-0

Calzaghe then began stepping up the competition with fighters like:
Frank Minton 26-21-1
Robert Curry 33-34-0
Guy Stanford 16-11-1
Anthony Brooks 11-6-2
Pat Lawlor 21-8-0
Carlos Christie 13-22-1

The list goes on, and this is what is really wrong with the sport, but,
a smart trainer always knows he needs a "sure fire star" like Joe Calzaghe to fight for 2 years before he ever sees an opponant with a winning record, after all this is professional boxing, and it's all about the record right???

So what if nearly half of Calzeghe's career wins have been against - shall we say - "questionable talent", he is still the "all time best" in both of his divisions isn't he???

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...5364&cat=boxer

I will make this simple for you: you are wrong as wrong can be. I can barely even muster up the energy to refute your ridiculous, narrow minded and indeed wilfully ignorant claims. What you really ought to do is get off boxrec and get some DVDs or downloads of Joe's fights, then go into therapy to find out what it is you dislike so much about Joe that makes you want to discredit a man who is or has, wait for it:

Current Ring LHW Champ
Current Ring SMW Champ
Unified Alphabet SMW Champ
Two Weight Ring Champion
Longest Reigning Champ Currently On Earth
Top Five Most Title Defences Ever
Top Five Longest Reigming Champs Ever
20+ Title Defences at SMW
Undefeated Pro Career of 45 Fights
Record Breaking UK Amateur Career

Simply, if you do not think this man is an ATG boxer and a current p4p top 3er, you are insane, and you do not like boxing, you just dislike Joe Calzaghe.

I could waste time explaining to you that Joe's standard of opposition is good, that just because some of the people he's fought aren't worldbeating 'names' doesn't make them bad boxers and that Joe's resume is perfectly fine, but I won't because you can read all about that elsewhere, and besides I think you already know it. Look at your post, you deliberately pick the very worst names from Joe's record, and discredit or ignore all his good and decent wins.

Good, it makes me happy. I now realise that all you calzaghe haters have nothing left to beat him with than the banal observation that, years ago, back when Joe was making his name as contender and champ, he fought some middling opposition, as every single fighter in history and the future has and will.

The only other fighter I can think of who is not allowed to have a single middling win on his record is Floyd Mayweather Jr, and if Joe is noe attracting the same sort of ridiculous criticism that Floyd does, then i finally know he has truly arrived.
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[Mr. Philadel]

I will make this simple for you: you are wrong as wrong can be. I can barely even muster up the energy to refute your ridiculous, narrow minded and indeed wilfully ignorant claims. What you really ought to do is get off boxrec and get some DVDs or downloads of Joe's fights, then go into therapy to find out what it is you dislike so much about Joe that makes you want to discredit a man who is or has, wait for it:

Current Ring LHW Champ
Current Ring SMW Champ
Unified Alphabet SMW Champ
Two Weight Ring Champion
Longest Reigning Champ Currently On Earth
Top Five Most Title Defences Ever
Top Five Longest Reigming Champs Ever
20+ Title Defences at SMW
Undefeated Pro Career of 45 Fights
Record Breaking UK Amateur Career

Simply, if you do not think this man is an ATG boxer and a current p4p top 3er, you are insane, and you do not like boxing, you just dislike Joe Calzaghe.

I could waste time explaining to you that Joe's standard of opposition is good, that just because some of the people he's fought aren't worldbeating 'names' doesn't make them bad boxers and that Joe's resume is perfectly fine, but I won't because you can read all about that elsewhere, and besides I think you already know it. Look at your post, you deliberately pick the very worst names from Joe's record, and discredit or ignore all his good and decent wins.

Good, it makes me happy. I now realise that all you calzaghe haters have nothing left to beat him with than the banal observation that, years ago, back when Joe was making his name as contender and champ, he fought some middling opposition, as every single fighter in history and the future has and will.

The only other fighter I can think of who is not allowed to have a single middling win on his record is Floyd Mayweather Jr, and if Joe is noe attracting the same sort of ridiculous criticism that Floyd does, then i finally know he has truly arrived.

I dont think homeboy was discrediting Joe and his accomplishments, itz just some people over exaggerate his place in the books, thatz all! Some says he's the greatest boxer ever from the UK, and ridicilious **** like that! He's arrived yes! via Hopkins! not none of them journey men contenders you mentioned! Hopkins!

[Jambo boy]

Dont get me wrong i like calzaghe, but i feel he could've moved up to light heavy a couple of years ago and we wouldnt be questioning his ability now.

Having said that its easy to say now, i think people like calzaghe will always be questioned.

The ultimate answer is, he's still undefeated and until someone can beat him he's the best around. (from britain at least)

[Soundtraveler]

I dont think homeboy was discrediting Joe and his accomplishments, itz just some people over exaggerate his place in the books, thatz all! Some says he's the greatest boxer ever from the UK, and ridicilious **** like that! He's arrived yes! via Hopkins! not none of them journey men contenders you mentioned! Hopkins!

I knew someone would get the point!!!

[The Hammer]

If you look carefully at any boxers records, they've all fought journeymen. Hopkins' early opponents were no better than Calzaghe's, nor were his title defenses.

Check the records of Hopkins and Mayweather's early opponents:

Hopkins:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...1414&cat=boxer
Mayweather:
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=352&cat=boxer

Did they really fight better opposition than Calzaghe?