My thoughts on this. I had Bernard winning, but Joe looked great...

[Neckodeemus]

Without a second viewing I thought Hopkins nicked the fight. More punches thrown by Joe but the abiding memory is the amount of cleaner shots Hopkins seemed to land. I would not go wild if it was scored either way though as it is a case of what you like. I like the guy making an impact with his shots, pro boxing is not decided on amateur point scoring, got to take into accounts the frugality and quality of Hopkins' shots. But Joe made a hell of a case for himself.

On thing that rankles is that 9-point card. That is very poor. Given the other cards were similar it is clear one guy completely misread the fight, Hopkins can complain about that but not the verdict overall as it went tight due to his inactivity at times.

A few years ago it is a different bout, Hopkins was more effective then again so was Joe.

[RodBarker]

Was the lowblow "significant?" Hopkins went down and rested for almost 4 minutes after that. You might say that Hopkins faked it. But, that's the thing about Calzaghe; he's deceptively powerful. Against Jeff Lacy, I was thinking what's going on with all those pitty pat looking punches? But, in the later rounds of that fight, Lacy was a complete mess.

The key to Calzaghe is the fact that he's ambidextrous. He's a unique fighting machine and he just convincingly whipped Bernard Hopkins. That win put Calzaghe in the history books.

Cal dont punch hard Wiley he never put a mark on Hopkins with Lacy he landed hundreds more thats the difference , he is no ****er for mine , I dont see what your on about here , he showed no power in this fight at all , Hopkins was the one that cut him up and dropped him clean and wobbled him in a later round , Joe won with sheer volume .

[MetalVomit]

Why is your karma green when you're a terrible poster? You need to lay off the crack, you crackhead

Nice comeback. Just kidding.

Was the lowblow "significant?" Hopkins went down and rested for almost 4 minutes after that. You might say that Hopkins faked it. But, that's the thing about Calzaghe; he's deceptively powerful. Against Jeff Lacy, I was thinking what's going on with all those pitty pat looking punches? But, in the later rounds of that fight, Lacy was a complete mess.

The key to Calzaghe is the fact that he's ambidextrous. He's a unique fighting machine and he just convincingly whipped Bernard Hopkins. That win put Calzaghe in the history books.

the low blow was right below the belt line, any man knows, it doesnt take much of a shot to the **** or balls to make your heart skip a beat. I wouldnt say Calzaghe "whipped" Hopkins "convincingly" either. Not a chance. I have no bias against JC, and I'm a fan of Hopkins, but I never let who I root for cloud my vision. Calzaghe landed more punches, and almost zero of them were enough to rock a butterfly. Hopkins dropped JC once, rocked him a couple of times and certainly landed the more telling blows. I'll watch it again in the morning, but I wasnt drunk when I watched tonight (which I usually am on fight nights), so I doubt my outlook on the fight will change.

[jzpowahz]

yes I agree that Hopkins landed the cleaner punches. But even after that, I cannot see how someone who is on the backfoot for 12 rounds and lands about half as many as the other guy could possibly be scored as the winner. (Yes I agree that the 1st round knockdown was legitimate but I certainly don't think it was a punch that hurt Joe, he got hit by a lot more from Kessler IMO)

Terrible form from B-hop not even acknowledging Joe's win. Was an A class sore loser interview right after the fight.

[Neckodeemus]

One thing against Hopkins is that he did allow some drift in the middle rounds. I think his flooring of Joe left Joe stuck in two minds, attack or wait, for the first four. Then he got into it and Hopkins took his rounds off at the wrong points.

Hopkins, though, did land the more telling blows. Compubox is not a judge of quality. Problem for Hopkins is that he would land then smother and it may have done his shots a disservice. Along the ropes, when Joe would open, Hopkins sometimes had the last word.

Often with punches landed you then look at accuracy and punch effectiveness. One shots from Hopkins early put Joe over and made him fight cautious, Hopkins' punches in the following rounds kept him cautious.

Compubox is good fun but with a stat 9/10 times there can be a lot of problems with that stat.

My girlfriend is a fan of Joe's boxing and she had Hopkins 4-0 in the early going, then Joe tightening the scoring, she was turned off by Hopkins' spoiling and time wasting, she had it a draw and is a pretty good judge. Reckons Hopkins made a mountain for his own back.

However, fight over. Joe won so time for him to move on and Hopkins to perhaps move into being a trainer. Jones will land shots on Joe but his chin will present a problem. I think Joe-Jones may be an interesting fight, can we hack the showboating though

[Wiley Hyena]

Cal dont punch hard Wiley he never put a mark on Hopkins with Lacy he landed hundreds more thats the difference , he is no ****er for mine , I dont see what your on about here , he showed no power in this fight at all , Hopkins was the one that cut him up and dropped him clean and wobbled him in a later round , Joe won with sheer volume .

He punches hard enough. 32 knockouts. Combine that with sheer volume, a rock solid chin, and elusiveness, and you have a great fighter. Calzaghe is ambidextrous and this presents a peculiar style to the eyes, and a baffling opponent even to a great like Hopkins.

I doubt Calzaghe will lose a fight in his prime. Unless he gets greedy or hard up for money, he may very well retire as undefeated champion.

[-EX-]

You were expecting Bernard to give Joe credit? He didn't give Jermain any.

[warp1432]

Well Jermain didn't really earn it....Joe did.