Prime Hopkins vs Prime Winky @ 160 - Who Wins?

[ExecutiveOutlaw]

Watching their fight at 170, i noticed Winky was heavily gasping for air since the 3rd or 4th round. Along with the gash on his head, and the fact that i had him easily winning the first half of the fight, imo he wouldve beat hopkins @160 had they fought in their primes. by the end of the fight he was holding on for life and hopkins was still crisp, even then i scored the fight a draw, as did many others

Who do you think wouldve won?

[MANGLER]

The fight at 170 was a closer than people gave Winky credit for. Some people thought he won. I had it for Hopkins 115-113. That said, I think it would be close but if I had to pick I'd say Winky by that same score prime for prime at 160. I really wanted Hopkins to beat Jermain so they could fight after Winky first moved up but it didn't happen. Hopkins would have a hard time frustrating a guy who's as much a tactical genius as he is. He did it at 170 cuz Wright had no business bein up there. Winky woulda held his own better at 160 and won a close fight that probably wouldn't have been as dull.

[thegreatone1]

Hopkins, Winky as great as he is has done nothing above 154lbs to suggest he could beat a great champion like Bernard Hopkins.

[Kilrain]

I had the fight 116-113 Hop.

A few points:

Hopkins at middleweight, in his prime, threw far more punches than the one who fought Wink at 170. In that fight, as has been typical with Bernard in the past couple of years to his advantage he fought conversatively and economically, on the backfoot, using lateral movement and keeping Wink offset. In his prime this wouldn't be the case. He's be a lot more aggressive, a lot busier.

Wink didn't lose because he was tired, he kept his energy levels very high throughout the fight, the judges just liked Bernard's RING GENERALSHIP, he was the one doing exactly as he pleased while Winky seemed to run out of ideas actually and came in a lot of the time in straight lines. That's the way Wright's fought for quite a while now, very come forward, plenty of jabs, high guard around his face..

I do think it would be as competitive at 160, Winky Wright is not a guy you just dominate, but I favour Hopkins. The Hopkins of the Glen Johnson fight v any Wink you like and Philly takes it

[215Chaingang]

The fight at 170 was a closer than people gave Winky credit for. Some people thought he won. I had it for Hopkins 115-113. That said, I think it would be close but if I had to pick I'd say Winky by that same score prime for prime at 160. I really wanted Hopkins to beat Jermain so they could fight after Winky first moved up but it didn't happen. Hopkins would have a hard time frustrating a guy who's as much a tactical genius as he is. He did it at 170 cuz Wright had no business bein up there. Winky woulda held his own better at 160 and won a close fight that probably wouldn't have been as dull.

i understand where you are coming from but there was a video where his trainer and winky said they feel better at that weight. everybody saw winky lack of discpline when he went to krispy kremes and said he walk around at 190. i think the fight was closer than scored but i had wish they had another round or two so he could get KOed

[215Chaingang]

Hopkins, Winky as great as he is has done nothing above 154lbs to suggest he could beat a great champion like Bernard Hopkins.

i still think winky beat taylor

[ExecutiveOutlaw]

i understand where you are coming from but there was a video where his trainer and winky said they feel better at that weight. everybody saw winky lack of discpline when he went to krispy kremes and said he walk around at 190. i think the fight was closer than scored but i had wish they had another round or two so he could get KOed

well i think they were just saying that for a psychological advantage

i agree winky needs to put down the donuts tho, but i dont think hopkins wouldve KO'd him. if anything he woulda collapsed due to fatigue

[Fox McCloud]

i still think winky beat taylor

You aren't alone.

Quite a few people do, including myself.

[215Chaingang]

well i think they were just saying that for a psychological advantage

i agree winky needs to put down the donuts tho, but i dont think hopkins wouldve KO'd him. if anything he woulda collapsed due to fatigue
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it would have count as a KO. fighter should know there weight limits they can fight at. thats part of being a pro

[215Chaingang]

You aren't alone.

Quite a few people do, including myself

Cool so that mean he did someting a 160