hopkins became a legend in an ocean. calzaghe became a legend in a swimming pool.

[Feint]

Frankly, I could not care less about where each has fought, nor do I care how much of a "legend" each boxer is. I just see two fighters and when I analyze the skills of both fighters I see Calzahghe winning.

[BetterCallSaul]

I would like to see more U.S fighters, fight outside of the U.S. In my opinion U.S fighters have equally or if not more padded records than other fighters in the world. Fighting on home turf is a big advantage and gives you confidence to go on and win. Also, I believe most of boxings bodies are based in the USA...another obvious advantage.

As for the mecca of boxing, the tide is turning. American fights lack atmosphere and passion, when was the last time a big fight sold out a stadium?

[Tuggers1986]

gd statement owned.. nuff said thread closed usa isnt the mecca of boxing imo.

The quote on the bottom of your sig is wrong. It should be.. "i'd rather die on my feet than LIVE on my knees"

Your way makes no sense.

[ippo]

Whether you like it or not The U.S. is the mecca of boxing, this is where you make the most money in boxing.Which is why a lot of the big bouts are here.Also a lot of other countries fighters fight in the U.S. which saves the U.S. fighter from having to travel over their and fight for less money.

[thegreatone1]

and that's all I gotta say...

ill bet all my points on a hopkins victory, provided one of you calzaghe supporters are dumb enough to give me 2 to 1 odds.

The Welterweight division was an Ocean?

It was ok when Oscar and Tito were in it but not overly deep, id say it was more like a lake or an inland sea.

[T-97]

and that's all I gotta say...

ill bet all my points on a hopkins victory, provided one of you calzaghe supporters are dumb enough to give me 2 to 1 odds.

Yeah but i have now figured that you have an irrational hatred for anything UK. You say that Cunningham could beat Haye, that Hayes amateur background doesnt mean anything cause hes British now this..

Grow the **** up, don't say its nothing to do with nationality cause i've read some other posts from you that proove otherwise. As far as i'm concerned people that bring stuff like that into boxing are morons.

[T-97]

This is the mecca of boxing, the Us has more champions(because of population) and the skill of fighters is better, PBF,RJJ,hopkins,Toney,Winky, SSR,SRL,Ali, Fraizer,Louis,Liston the list goes on of great american fighters and the UK champs are shadowed but the US champs, when hopkins was winning fights and titles the level of talent in the division was great, he even lost too Taylor twice in two great fights. Calzaghe,Hatton, and haye are good fighters, Haye is the best in the HW division imo, hatton can still be a force at 140, but calz is the one that gets me, he diddn't begin to rise to the top of the boxing world till after his fight with Bika in 2006, then lacey, then Manfredo(see where im getting at?) he came into this top spots being bums, and Floyd made hatton look like a bum from a one sided bout. if you look at my sig, they all have beat champs and former champs defending their title. We says we have the best fighters in the world because we do and the talent pool is much better and bigger then anywhere else(sorry cuba,P-rico,Mexico,Uk,Russia etc...)

Joe Calzaghe had fought people who were olympic champions and world champions as well so i dunno what your getting at here. This is my point, a US fighter gets credit for fighting someone people in the US have heard of but people around the world don't know and its OK cause hes a former world champ or something. But then a UK fighter fights someone who is a former champ but the US havn't heard of and say hes a bum cause we ain't hearda him.

This sums it up i think...

I don't care about where a fighter comes from, its at the back of my mind. Sure if a fighter i like is from UK i cheer for him to do us proud but at the same time i wouldn't care if they were from the US, India or Russia etc.

[Left Hook Tua]

OK well is your going on who has the most world titles then Europe is the mecca of boxing!


USA: 17 World titles.
Europe 20 (21 including Russia, as I believe Russia should not be included as it is unpopular and such a vast population.)


With the European countires that currently have a world champion the population total is...(UK, Hungary, Ukraine, Germany, Uzbekistan, Romania, France) the population total is approx. 105+10+64+21+26+82)

=308 million... A margine higher then USA's population of 303 million... But 3 more world titles (4 more including Russia).

the u.s. being the mecca of boxing doesn't mean they have more champions.

the real mecca is where all the ******s have to make a pilgrimage to. not all ******s live in mecca do they?

for hatton's biggest fight he had to come to the u.s.
calzaghe's biggest fight is gonna happen in the u.s.
the brothers klitschko's who made millions in germany still both came to the u.s.
hamed came to the u.s. to fight at the end of his career for more money.
lewis was jamaican/canadian/british but he claimed to be a brit but after starting his career there fought primarily in the u.s. once he became a champion.

sounds like the united states is STILL the mecca of boxing.

[majestiC]

the u.s. being the mecca of boxing doesn't mean they have more champions.

the real mecca is where all the ******s have to make a pilgrimage to. not all ******s live in mecca do they?

for hatton's biggest fight he had to come to the u.s.
calzaghe's biggest fight is gonna happen in the u.s.
the brothers klitschko's who made millions in germany still both came to the u.s.
hamed came to the u.s. to fight at the end of his career for more money.
lewis was jamaican/canadian/british but he claimed to be a brit but after starting his career there fought primarily in the u.s. once he became a champion.

sounds like the united states is STILL the mecca of boxing.

is it ****, the dollar is worth **** all and Hopkins vs Calzaghe has barely sold over 12,000 tickets in the states, if the fight was in Wales 60-70k would have been the attendance. 9k for the Cotto fight, which was a good card that is a ****ing joke for such a good fighter....

[boxingsmash69]

i can't decide if calzaghe is a legend in a swimming pool or bathtub....


jk folks, both are legends in my eyes, but i think hopkins had better competition, even if his greatest wins were welterweights.