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Team Haye: "Hopkins Is Going To Mug Calzaghe, Big Time!"
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"To truly dissect Maccarinelli I had to understand Enzo Calzaghe's training philosophy, that involved studying tapes of all his fighters, including Joe.
One thing became glaringly obvious - all their camp try to touch with the first jab, lean back, then fire their combinations. However, this often leaves them terribly off balance. Hopkins has got terrific footwork, drifts to the left and counters, drifts to the right and counters, can even shoot whilst stepping backwards. He's going to rough Joe up and mug him, big time!"
Hopkins too complete, and in too good condition. Night and day, head and shoulders better than Lacy and Kessler. With 17 fights, Lacy had no experience, and struggled with Richard Grant, Omar Sheika almost KO'd him.
I could give Joe more credit if Lacy came back after the Calzaghe fight and blew out his competition, but he came back and struggled with PREtender Peter ****ing Manfredo. Sorry. NOT impressed. And as strong as Kessler is as a Super middle, he's very one dimensional, stands flat footed straight up and down. So European.
Fellow Philadelphian Charles Brewer almost had Joe out in the 7th round of their fight, and he's an incomplete version of Hopkins (Brewer lacks the footwork, defense, balance, chin, etc of B-Hop, but has that same Philly jail-house right hand.).
I mean, Bika gives Joe a tough fight? When the **** has Bernard EVER struggled with soft touches the way Joe has? Short answer? He hasn't.
Joe looks good winging punches against a pug like Manfredo, but he's dealing with a completely different animal here.
Hopkins has seen the speed before - Roy, DLH, Vanderpool was a speedy big southpaw.
Joe has NEVER seen a guy with complete game the likes of Hopkins.
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"His fundamentals terrible. Wings shots with his head down"
That is completely wrong he does throw with his head down, Hopkins does the same with his right hand.
You seem to forget that Calzaghe has some of the best footwork in the business.
You pick holes in Calzaghe yet mis out Hopkins many more flaws this is a fan boy post.
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NOT completely wrong. EXACTLY RIGHT.
Bernard throws that jail-house overhand right, and takes his head down behind it ducking through the follow through so as to avoid being countered.
Quite the opposite of squaring your body and winging body and head punches by the bunches.
You're dismissed.
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Originally posted by Method View PostNOT completely wrong. EXACTLY RIGHT.
Bernard throws that jail-house overhand right, and takes his head down behind it ducking through the follow through so as to avoid being countered.
Quite the opposite of squaring your body and winging body and head punches by the bunches.
You're dismissed.
Its pretty hard to hit a guy thats flurrying on you infact impossible, Calzaghe knows what hes doing he is undefeated after all.
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Originally posted by Method View PostYup. Don't be surprised to see Joe dropped on the seat of his pants as he tries to square up and start winging shots. His balance/stance blow. His fundamentals terrible. Wings shots with his head down.
Hopkins too complete, and in too good condition. Night and day, head and shoulders better than Lacy and Kessler. With 17 fights, Lacy had no experience, and struggled with Richard Grant, Omar Sheika almost KO'd him.
I could give Joe more credit if Lacy came back after the Calzaghe fight and blew out his competition, but he came back and struggled with PREtender Peter ****ing Manfredo. Sorry. NOT impressed. And as strong as Kessler is as a Super middle, he's very one dimensional, stands flat footed straight up and down. So European.
Fellow Philadelphian Charles Brewer almost had Joe out in the 7th round of their fight, and he's an incomplete version of Hopkins (Brewer lacks the footwork, defense, balance, chin, etc of B-Hop, but has that same Philly jail-house right hand.).
I mean, Bika gives Joe a tough fight? When the **** has Bernard EVER struggled with soft touches the way Joe has? Short answer? He hasn't.
Joe looks good winging punches against a pug like Manfredo, but he's dealing with a completely different animal here.
Hopkins has seen the speed before - Roy, DLH, Vanderpool was a speedy big southpaw.
Joe has NEVER seen a guy with complete game the likes of Hopkins.
i dont see joe falling on his pants at any point during the fight i watched a re run of his fight with kessler and the dane knoced him some really good shots even late on in the fight but joe never really looked like going down. if kessler cant knock joe downwith some good punches i dont see how b-hop is gonna manage it.
also kessler biggest weapon is his straight right - joe knows that hopkins will come into the fighthoping to do some damage with his straight right as well. if joe can neutralise kesslers straight right (with counterpunching and body shots) then i dont see b-hops being much of a probem.
as for lacey well i dontthink he is psychologically ever gonna recover rom the beating he was given.
bika took joe the distance but was never gonna win and at ano point was he ever ahead of joe on the scorecards.
i think your reight that joe has never fought anyone like b-hop ut b-hop has never come across someone as adpatable as joe neither.
joe to win by TKO round 12.
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MARIJUANA NEWSLast edited by hookoutofhell; 03-14-2011, 12:59 PM.
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From ESPN.com...
Yet while Calzaghe had huge wins at home in Britain against Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler, he has not yet had to face the pressure of a big fight night in Las Vegas, of hearing boos as well as cheers when he is introduced.
Calzaghe seems to be strong mentally, but it could be unsettling if he is made to miss and starts getting hit by punches he wasn't expecting. Lacy was a straight-ahead, wide-punching, pressure fighter, easy for Calzaghe to figure out. Kessler, while strong and technically sound, boxed in a conventional way and did not offer a lot of imagination. Calzaghe was able to overcome him with versatility.
Hopkins is different, though: a savvy, tough, crafty veteran who is an expert at shutting down his opponents. He hits hard and fast, then moves away or gets inside to maul the other man around. Suddenly, a competent boxer can find himself fighting Hopkins' fight.
That's the prediction offered by Miami trainer Pat Burns, who guided Jermain Taylor to two very close wins over Hopkins.
"I think it's a very tough fight for Calzaghe," Burns told ESPN.com. "Hopkins is very cagey, and you know Calzaghe likes to move a lot. And I don't think that's the right style to beat Hopkins. When you're moving, you're working your angles and you're staying away, and Hopkins is very hard to hit -- it's very hard to get clean shots on Hopkins.
"There's no one in professional boxing who makes adjustments throughout the fight better than Hopkins. What he shows you in the first three rounds is different than [what] he shows you in four, five and six, and then what he shows you in the eighth and ninth are totally different, and then, when he finishes, that's something you haven't even seen. So the guy makes adjustments all the time. A 50-50 fight? I would say it's 60-40 -- with Hopkins winning."
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Yet while Calzaghe had huge wins at home in Britain against Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler, he has not yet had to face the pressure of a big fight night in Las Vegas, of hearing boos as well as cheers when he is introduced.
Calzaghe seems to be strong mentally, but it could be unsettling if he is made to miss and starts getting hit by punches he wasn't expecting. Lacy was a straight-ahead, wide-punching, pressure fighter, easy for Calzaghe to figure out. Kessler, while strong and technically sound, boxed in a conventional way and did not offer a lot of imagination. Calzaghe was able to overcome him with versatility.
Hopkins is different, though: a savvy, tough, crafty veteran who is an expert at shutting down his opponents. He hits hard and fast, then moves away or gets inside to maul the other man around. Suddenly, a competent boxer can find himself fighting Hopkins' fight.
That's the prediction offered by Miami trainer Pat Burns, who guided Jermain Taylor to two very close wins over Hopkins.
"I think it's a very tough fight for Calzaghe," Burns told ESPN.com. "Hopkins is very cagey, and you know Calzaghe likes to move a lot. And I don't think that's the right style to beat Hopkins. When you're moving, you're working your angles and you're staying away, and Hopkins is very hard to hit -- it's very hard to get clean shots on Hopkins.
"There's no one in professional boxing who makes adjustments throughout the fight better than Hopkins. What he shows you in the first three rounds is different than [what] he shows you in four, five and six, and then what he shows you in the eighth and ninth are totally different, and then, when he finishes, that's something you haven't even seen. So the guy makes adjustments all the time. A 50-50 fight? I would say it's 60-40 -- with Hopkins winning."
Fighting infront of 50,000 is just as big pressure imo, i also think Kessler ar this stage is a better tougher fight than Hopkins.
Calzaghe also made his debut on the Lewis v Bruno undercard.
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I have been told that, like Mr. Hopkins, Haye does not like Whites people.
I am not sure how true that is, though.
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Originally posted by .Mik. View PostI like Booth and I like Haye, they have both got Haye to the point where he is better technically than anyone is Calzaghe's stable...but Calzaghe. Trying to dissect Calzaghe is something for a superior fighter/trainer, neither Haye, nor Booth are anywhere near that and frankly, they look a bit ****** for trying.
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