When are you considered Great?

[Scott9945]

When you appear on Dancing With the Stars and Wrestlemania.

[MANGLER]

After a period of years spent beatin all the best fighters in range of your weight. Winnin some titles along the way is a plus too.

[Burner]

Are we all seemingly duped by the notion that all fighters become great when boxing retires YOU. Ali - Holmes, should never have happened but he strived for GREATNESS. Leonard - Norris was a lopsided embarrassment, yet again another fighter striving for GREATNESS.....my question again .....when do YOU attain GREATNESS? Is it when you are pounded into a submissive state, peeling yourself from the canvass in an attempt to recapture the HEYDAYS of yesteryear, or when you go out on your "shield" in an embarrassing fashion, for the Casual Boxing fan, Critic and others alike.

When your name is Floyd Mayweather Jr..thats how you know you are great.

[daggum]

after hiding in the supermiddleweight division for ten years defending against infantile ******s as tyson would say you step up and "beat" a 43 year old light heavyweight champ. then my friends you are great.

[steptwome]

After a period of years spent beatin all the best fighters in range of your weight. Winnin some titles along the way is a plus too.

...and just when you begin to hang up the gloves an up-an-coming Prospect calls you out, the public demands it, the "fans" want it, the promoters poly for it, the money is right. Fact is... you've peaked five years prior. The only thing that draws you to that ring is a yearning moment for that last hurrah. You Know you shouldnt be in there.....but the "Masses" want it. should you somehow thwart that "Opportunity", you will be assumed as "Ducking" a true and formidable opponent....Go figure

[steptwome]

everyone has a different opinion of what greatness is and how each fighter defines it. i know plenty of people, even on this site, who think muhammad ali was a bum, who fought and beat other unworthy bums. i mean what's a guy suppoused to do to convince anyone otherwise.

i think you become great when you convince people that you're more than an ordinary fighters. that can happen on any given moment, in any given fight.

Evenso, people will still cast doubt and judgement

[niceguy45]

Are we all seemingly duped by the notion that all fighters become great when boxing retires YOU. Ali - Holmes, should never have happened but he strived for GREATNESS. Leonard - Norris was a lopsided embarrassment, yet again another fighter striving for GREATNESS.....my question again .....when do YOU attain GREATNESS? Is it when you are pounded into a submissive state, peeling yourself from the canvass in an attempt to recapture the HEYDAYS of yesteryear, or when you go out on your "shield" in an embarrassing fashion, for the Casual Boxing fan, Critic and others alike.

to me is what just happened to both margarito and cotto,
they are great fighters both, they need to go through a great one,
a great loss and a great win

[Left Hook Tua]

left hook tua has varying degrees of greatness.

great = one of the best in your division(s) for some time.

all-time great = it can be argued that you are the best in your division (s) ever. you don't have be the best ever , just that you can make an argument for it.

people think differently though. hence the flak i got for calling hamed great.

[steptwome]

1. Money
2. One last shot at glory.

They were already great, they knew that. They wanted the spot light on them one last time, and make a couple of bucks along the way.

Hmmmmmm...................sounds like De La Hoya?

[Silencers]

Hmmmmmm...................sounds like De La Hoya?

Money, yes. One last shot at glory, not exactly.