Better Puerto Rican Fighter Prime Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto?

[Left Hook Tua]

Okay. Because personally, I kind of think that he sucks.

Hopkins beat his ass up. Wright beat his ass up. De La Hoya was kicking his ass until he decided to implode into a ****** ***** who didn't want to get pounded to hard, so he played hard to get.

His biggest wins were over Mr. Sniffles Whitaker, a bad decision over Oscar, a Vargas who really was barely in the level of elite (he was certainly at the bottom of the elites, because he lost a lot), Ricardo Mayorga who was literally fighting at 147 at that point. Idk, I just am not overly impressed by him.

I think I am probably more than a little biased against him because of his one-dimensionalness and his lack of technical skill.

he'd knock vernon forrest out without a problem though...... at 147 or 154.

[Silencers]

Right now, I'd say Trinidad.

[Fox McCloud]

he'd knock vernon forrest out without a problem though...... at 147 or 154.

That may be...

It also may be that a fighter who fights in a style that is dependent on a strong jab keeping their opponent away would keep Trinidad away, just like some guy named Oscar De La Hoya did.

You know, either way.

[-Antonio-]

Wiens, I think you're underrating Tito's precision here. He wasnt just a big puncher, dude had incredible accuracy and timing.

He just had no plan B.

[!! Shawn]

Aging Mosley in 2007 > Inactive for a year and a half, recently out of rehab, 1999 version of Pernell Whitaker

The Fernando Vargas and William Joppy wins for Tito were better than the one over Whitaker.

I agree, a win over Whitaker in 1999 at 147 lb is beyond meaningless.

[Silencers]

That may be...

It also may be that a fighter who fights in a style that is dependent on a strong jab keeping their opponent away would keep Trinidad away, just like some guy named Oscar De La Hoya did.

You know, either way.

A guy with a fast, snapping jab would always give Trinidad problems because he was front foot heavy, almost every offensive move he did was off his front foot so a strong, fast, snapping jab would keep him off balance.

But Trinidad's timing was good and he used to counter jabs with overhand rights and sometimes he'd even slip the jab and get inside to throw his left hook.

Trinidad was good to watch when he was younger. His fights with Campas, Reid, Vargas and so forth were entertaining fights.

I do think that Cotto is the better technical fighter though, Trinidad didn't have much amateur experience I believe.

[ßringer]

Okay. Because personally, I kind of think that he sucks.

Hopkins beat his ass up. Wright beat his ass up. De La Hoya was kicking his ass until he decided to implode into a ****** ***** who didn't want to get pounded to hard, so he played hard to get.

His biggest wins were over Mr. Sniffles Whitaker, a bad decision over Oscar, a Vargas who really was barely in the level of elite (he was certainly at the bottom of the elites, because he lost a lot), Ricardo Mayorga who was literally fighting at 147 at that point. Idk, I just am not overly impressed by him.

I think I am probably more than a little biased against him because of his one-dimensionalness and his lack of technical skill.

I've always felt the same too, that Trinidad ******. Beware, that opinion attracts a lot of haters around here. I can't count the number of debates I've been in with Trinidad fans about anything from his lack of style to the Oscar fight and everything inbetween.

Cotto is better than Trinidad, even now.

[Thread Stealer]

Trinidad had some respectable boxing skills, but fell more in love with his power on. He had good technique in his punches and picked his shots very well. His defense was alright although he was a sucker for a straight right hand. His footwork was his weakest point though.

Tito is remembered for always being aggressive and coming forward, but I've seen him use the ring and circle with success as well, such as the Carr and Campas fights for example. He spent the majority of the fight against Barnes on the retreat.

[Left Hook Tua]

That may be...

It also may be that a fighter who fights in a style that is dependent on a strong jab keeping their opponent away would keep Trinidad away, just like some guy named Oscar De La Hoya did.

You know, either way.

maybe. but vernon was/is never gonna be as skilled as de la hoya. mayorga was able to land on a prime vernon. trinidad is taller , better skilled and hits a lot harder than mayorga. vernon gave shane problems because of the styles matchup and his length. trinidad was a natural welterweight who in his prime demolished much bigger middleweights NOT named bernard hopkins. bernard is trinidad's only loss in his prime. a welterweight losing in his prime against the longest reigning middleweight champion and HOFer is not that bad.

[Fox McCloud]

Wiens, I think you're underrating Tito's precision here. He wasnt just a big puncher, dude had incredible accuracy and timing.

He just had no plan B.

I know he had good accuracy and timing... that is the only way a power puncher can be recognized as good. They have to be able to connect with that power. He reminds me of Chavez, but just... not as good, or even close to it.