Better Puerto Rican Fighter Prime Felix Trinidad vs Miguel Cotto?

[Fox McCloud]

Can someone help me in regards to Trinidad?

I can't get past thinking of him as a one-dimensional fighter, which makes it hard for me to imagine him beating a lot of top fighters, but he seemed to do a lot of that so... What am I missing here? I have watched him fight Hopkins, Wright, De La Hoya, Jones and Mayorga so far. I have his fights against Whitaker and Vargas that are on my list to watch, but I haven't gotten to them yet.

Or was he one of the very few blessed fighters that were so ridiculously good at their one-dimension, that they never needed to switch it up?

[ßringer]

Can someone help me in regards to Trinidad?

I can't get past thinking of him as a one-dimensional fighter, which makes it hard for me to imagine him beating a lot of top fighters, but he seemed to do a lot of that so... What am I missing here? I have watched him fight Hopkins, Wright, De La Hoya, Jones and Mayorga so far. I have his fights against Whitaker and Vargas that are on my list to watch, but I haven't gotten to them yet.

Or was he one of the very few blessed fighters that were so ridiculously good at their one-dimension, that they never needed to switch it up?

Personally I thought Trinidad was overrated, but yeah I'd classify him as one of those one dimensional guys who was so good at that dimension he was never forced to switch **** up.

[NYCHeavyHitz]

I know Cotto's way better than Trinidad.

[Fox McCloud]

Personally I thought Trinidad was overrated, but yeah I'd classify him as one of those one dimensional guys who was so good at that dimension he was never forced to switch **** up.

Okay. Because personally, I kind of think that he sucks.

Hopkins beat his ass up. Wright beat his ass up. De La Hoya was kicking his ass until he decided to implode into a ****** ***** who didn't want to get pounded to hard, so he played hard to get.

His biggest wins were over Mr. Sniffles Whitaker, a bad decision over Oscar, a Vargas who really was barely in the level of elite (he was certainly at the bottom of the elites, because he lost a lot), Ricardo Mayorga who was literally fighting at 147 at that point. Idk, I just am not overly impressed by him.

I think I am probably more than a little biased against him because of his one-dimensionalness and his lack of technical skill.

[oldgringo]

Personally I thought Trinidad was overrated, but yeah I'd classify him as one of those one dimensional guys who was so good at that dimension he was never forced to switch **** up.

I was just about to say this.

I always thought that Trinidad kind of just was what he was, as much as I hate that saying. He was a physically gifted power puncher who could box in spots, but his power ultimately won him fights. He didn't have to make adjustments against guys who gave him trouble like Oba Carr and David Reid because he felt he could just blast them outta there...and he did. When he ran into Oscar, man, maybe he would have been helped by an L. Maybe it would have forced him to work a bit more on other aspects of the fight game.

That's where I think Cotto differs. He makes adjustments, be it slowly or quickly, that help him win fights. They aren't always awe inspiring or extremely noticeable, but he makes them, and he wins as a result.

[Left Hook Tua]

Id have to think that at 147 Trinidad-Cotto at this point in time would be almost identical to Trinidad-Vargas

i'd have to agree with you completely.

i was on a cotto-de la hoya thread and the majority agreed it goes the same way as vargas-de la hoya.

i think cotto-trinidad goes the same way as vargas-trinidad. cotto shows his heart and makes it a war but gets knocked out. he can't outbox trinidad like oscar did.

[-Antonio-]

Can someone help me in regards to Trinidad?

I can't get past thinking of him as a one-dimensional fighter, which makes it hard for me to imagine him beating a lot of top fighters, but he seemed to do a lot of that so... What am I missing here? I have watched him fight Hopkins, Wright, De La Hoya, Jones and Mayorga so far. I have his fights against Whitaker and Vargas that are on my list to watch, but I haven't gotten to them yet.

Or was he one of the very few blessed fighters that were so ridiculously good at their one-dimension, that they never needed to switch it up?

You have to check out the Vargas and Joppy fights.

And his earlier Welterweight fights.

[oldgringo]

Trinidad did some things well from a technique standpoint. He threw straight punches straight and looping punches in a compact fashion. He turned well on his power punches, although his balance wasn't always the best.



isn't the chair hit hilarious? oh man, never gets old...

[Left Hook Tua]

I was just about to say this.

I always thought that Trinidad kind of just was what he was, as much as I hate that saying. He was a physically gifted power puncher who could box in spots, but his power ultimately won him fights. He didn't have to make adjustments against guys who gave him trouble like Oba Carr and David Reid because he felt he could just blast them outta there...and he did. When he ran into Oscar, man, maybe he would have been helped by an L. Maybe it would have forced him to work a bit more on other aspects of the fight game.

That's where I think Cotto differs. He makes adjustments, be it slowly or quickly, that help him win fights. They aren't always awe inspiring or extremely noticeable, but he makes them, and he wins as a result.

trinidad's boxing skills is not as bad as some would think. his skills are not on par with a de la hoya but he doesn't need to be with his power. de la hoya outboxed him because de la hoya at the time was in his prime and is a very well skilled boxer. hopkins is naturally bigger and used it with his ring skills to his advantage. winky did not beat a prime trinidad.

[oldgringo]

trinidad's boxing skills is not as bad as some would think. his skills are not on par with a de la hoya but he doesn't need to be with his power. de la hoya outboxed him because de la hoya at the time was in his prime and is a very well skilled boxer. hopkins is naturally bigger and used it with his ring skills to his advantage. winky did not beat a prime trinidad.

Trinidad did some things well from a technique standpoint. He threw straight punches straight and looping punches in a compact fashion. He turned well on his power punches, although his balance wasn't always the best.

I concur...