Lewis Vs Frazier

[jabsRstiff]

True, very true. I think however, there are posters here who do not remember just how mean and nasty Big George used to be.
Some of the posters are quite young, that much is obvious.

He used to scare reporters, sparring partners, even his own camp!You just never knew which Foreman you were going to get from one day to the next. I loved to watch the press dodge Big George, when he came near it was like watching the Red Sea part!!

As for Tyson - well, he is a time bomb period.

But, Joe Frazier was not afraid of Foreman going into their first fight.
The belief going in was that Frazier was gonna mop the floor with George.

[Soundtraveler]

I don't think Frazier was EVER scared of anyone, at least not on the outside, but don't think for a minute that when a boxer gets into the ring and looks up at a guy the size of Big George, that somewhere deep inside there isn't a voice that says "Damn this guy is a monster"...

[jabsRstiff]

I don't think Frazier was EVER scared of anyone, at least not on the outside, but don't think for a minute that when a boxer gets into the ring and looks up at a guy the size of Big George, that somewhere deep inside there isn't a voice that says "Damn this guy is a monster"...

Lewis is bigger than Foreman.

So, if Joe wasn't afraid of George until he got up & saw how big he was ....wouldn't he then also fear Lewis ?

[Soundtraveler]

Taller yes, BIGGER - no.

Foreman had much more power and a much bigger frame, with much more muscle than Lewis ever had. Big George would have beaten Lewis - to a pulp.

Now as to the question of Frazier's chances to have defeated Lewis, I could argue both sides until I am blue in the face, but my gut instinct tells me that if Lewis fought his style of fight he wins it.

[jabsRstiff]

Boxers don't fear other guys muscularity, Sound.
Muscles mean ****.



Was Foreman really that much more powerful a hitter than Lewis ?

George didn't KO many decent guys with one shot.
He was a super heavy-handed guy, who could hurt you with any punch.
But, if Lewis gets extension on his right hand, it's just as powerful as anything George could throw.

[Dark Destroyer]

I think a prime focused Lennox would take Joe Frazier out of action. Lennox was exceptional when he was focused. Joe was strong but i think he would be a little too one dimensional for Lennox. Besides if they would have fought Lennox would not have underestimated him at all. Lennox always fought his biggest fights seriously. The times he lost he underestimated the guys and thats how he was beat. You saw what a prime focused Lennox did to Rahman in the rematch just like you would have seen what a prime Lennox would have done to Vitali in a rematch. He was a modern great and worthy enough to trade blows with any heavyweight of any era.

[Soundtraveler]

So Jabs, do you think Frazier beats Lewis?

I think if Frazier fought Lewis it would mirror Frazier vs Foreman - but it would take Lewis longer to get it done, he was more of a cautious fighter. And that is only if he fought HIS style of fight, if Frazier dictates the fight, his (Frazier)chances go up in my book.

[jabsRstiff]

So Jabs, do you think Frazier beats Lewis?

I think if Frazier fought Lewis it would mirror Frazier vs Foreman - but it would take Lewis longer to get it done, he was more of a cautious fighter. And that is only if he fought HIS style of fight, if Frazier dictates the fight, his chances go up in my book.

I think Lewis would defeat Frazier.
My opinion is that Frazier is every bit as good as Lewis, but that Lennox is just too big.

I can't see Frazier getting inside on Lewis without getting bombed.

This is unusual for me....as I almost always pick the guys from the past over the more current guys.

[markosg19]

lewis inside 4 rounds easily!!

[Soundtraveler]

So we agree completely on the outcome of this one. Wonderful.

Now how about a Cruiserweighted Holyfield vs Marciano?!