How good was Frazier?

**hollister** · 10-27-2004, 08:50 PM

He was a good fighter that fought a very dificult style and made it work most of the time. There were many more excellent fighters that weren't particularly well known in that era than there are now, and most of his resume consisted of them. He did beat Jerry Quarry twice and Oscar Bonavena once that I know of. The loss to Foreman was just a style mismatch, as Goerge's power was on the outside, and he could move well enough to keep Joe there. By the second Ali fight, he was already slowing down, and had almost nothing left by the third one, as was the case in the second Foreman fight. He was a good fighter overall, and a nice guy, he was good for the sport.

**SonnyG8R** · 10-27-2004, 08:55 PM

He was the 3rd best fighter in the golden era of Heavyweights.

If he fought today he would wipe the floor with all the competition.

**phallus** · 10-27-2004, 08:57 PM

Frazier was a swarmer, there are not many swarmers in boxing for good reason It's the hardest style and you have to have a chin. Frazier in his prime was one of the best swarmers ever

**SonnyG8R** · 10-27-2004, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by beeatch!

Frazier was a swarmer, there are not many swarmers in boxing for good reason It's the hardest style and you have to have a chin. Frazier in his prime was one of the best swarmers ever

Your avatar is hilarious. Who is that. He's saying beeatch, right?

**Bubba Chunday** · 10-27-2004, 09:01 PM

isnt it Toney? He sure looks fat!

**phallus** · 10-27-2004, 09:10 PM

It is James Toney. He's saying "i'm gonna eat you!"

**dansweeney** · 10-27-2004, 09:12 PM

frazier is top ten all time, no one who ever fought had his determination other than marciano,,he could eat punches all day, and he could dish out plenty of punishment, he would kill all heavyweights today easily

**cple** · 10-27-2004, 09:38 PM

They don't make fighters like they use to. Joe Frazier wasn't particularly talented or big. But what he lacked in those categories, he more than made up for it with possibly the greatest determination i've ever seen. He was the absolute definition of relentless, especially to the body, his defense is very underrated, and his left hook was a thing of beauty. In fact, it was his only meaningful punch in his arsenal. He barely used his jab or right and opponents knew this. They still couldn't do a thing.

As for best win, it is unquestionably his first fight with Ali. On the biggest stage of his career, he put on a performance of a lifetime. Next would be his destruction of Jimmy Ellis.

Top 10 heavyweight.

**tikal** · 10-27-2004, 09:43 PM

Joe Frazier is a Heavy Weight Legend. He has the most devestatin left hook known to man. I think I got him at #7 or #8 on my HW of all time list.

How good was Frazier?