Cotto/Gomez LIVE EXECUTION!!

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  • Addison
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    #21
    Originally posted by tyson
    Addi, my man, I'll give you all my points if you can accurately predict the outcome of that fight!
    (Accurately means within reason)

    This is for Addison only, girls.
    I appreciate the opportunity, Tys. Making a specific outcome prediction is a whole different animal, and I'm limited to the framework I've setup.. But I'll take a stab. Just for fun though.


    Even though Team Cotto should be able to see it coming, I find it almost impossible to see any scenario where Gomez doesn't catch Cotto with the counter right hand over the jab at some point, badly buzzing and/or hurting Cotto. It's the one where Alfonso drops his elbow and takes a big step forward. Those who have watched tape know what I'm talking about.

    This punch is Miguel Cotto's worst nightmare - and Team Cotto knows it, so Cotto may dispense with the jabbing to some extent. That wouldn't be a surprise.. If however Cotto does throw that lunging jab too often, expect to see him wobbling around like a mentally handicapped newborn.

    Finishing Cotto is the major issue of course. He's not afraid to backpedal all the way across the ring, violently and/or desperately wrestle/grab, ect.. Cotto is all too familiar with his limitations and he knows to expect problems. This guy will literally do anything on instinct to stay upright.. And he don't care how it looks.

    Staying within my framework I'll say that Gomez hurts him badly enough with the counter right to follow with a series, possibly a hook or uppercut, and another right hand.. Gomez will stop him in the early to mid rounds.


    Now, I have already predicted Cotto will be in his body destroyer mode and not trying to outbox Gomez. That would be the only wise thing as far as I'm concerned.. Sucking the life out of Gomez with back shots should be fairly easy based on Alfono's constitution. If that happens, then I expect other possible outcomes, but I won't waste our time with that. Too boring.

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    • aussieboxer2320
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      #22
      gomez is tough and is a decent fighter, no tomato can, but cotto will have too much for him. cotto by 5th round TKO

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        #23
        Originally posted by Undefeated
        Cotto has MANY flaws, that even I can point out and im not his trainer.

        Cotto tends to throw his hands down ALOT when he throws a 2-4 punch combo then moves back.... Then moves side to side for no reason, right there is the chance to throw lead right hands. Watch any of his fights and you will see what im talking about.

        When he throws body shots he has his right hand covering his right side of the face while his left is suspect for a right hook or uppercut.

        As for uppercuts... This is Cotto's weakness. I don't see why Mosley didn't use as many. If Cotto is going to get KO'ed its gonna be because of a uppercut which splits the guard.

        That's just a few.. I've been watching this dude fight since he turned pro. Yea I was young, but I rewatched all of the fights. Yea... im a fan.

        Cotto is also relatively easy to hit

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        • IwatchBoxing
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          #24
          Cotto KO 1

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          • tyson
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            #25
            Originally posted by Addison
            I appreciate the opportunity, Tys. Making a specific outcome prediction is a whole different animal, and I'm limited to the framework I've setup.. But I'll take a stab. Just for fun though.


            Even though Team Cotto should be able to see it coming, I find it almost impossible to see any scenario where Gomez doesn't catch Cotto with the counter right hand over the jab at some point, badly buzzing and/or hurting Cotto. It's the one where Alfonso drops his elbow and takes a big step forward. Those who have watched tape know what I'm talking about.

            This punch is Miguel Cotto's worst nightmare - and Team Cotto knows it, so Cotto may dispense with the jabbing to some extent. That wouldn't be a surprise.. If however Cotto does throw that lunging jab too often, expect to see him wobbling around like a mentally handicapped newborn.
            Finishing Cotto is the major issue of course. He's not afraid to backpedal all the way across the ring, violently and/or desperately wrestle/grab, ect.. Cotto is all too familiar with his limitations and he knows to expect problems. This guy will literally do anything on instinct to stay upright.. And he don't care how it looks.

            Staying within my framework I'll say that Gomez hurts him badly enough with the counter right to follow with a series, possibly a hook or uppercut, and another right hand.. Gomez will stop him in the early to mid rounds.


            Now, I have already predicted Cotto will be in his body destroyer mode and not trying to outbox Gomez. That would be the only wise thing as far as I'm concerned.. Sucking the life out of Gomez with back shots should be fairly easy based on Alfono's constitution. If that happens, then I expect other possible outcomes, but I won't waste our time with that. Too boring.

            Early-mid rounds stoppage, fair enough.

            I agree with you that his chances get slimmer and slimmer the longer the fight progress, due to Cotto's heavy bodywork.
            But I admire your insight on this one, because I can't seem to give Gomez much chance myself
            I'm thinking too much in the box I guess... Need to be more creative and imaginative in my reasoning.

            And I find this fight kind of boring for me, probably because I can only see the Cotto-scenarios you mentioned there.

            How I want Murphys law to come bite me in the ass and prove me wrong

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            • Left2body
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              #26
              I'm sorry but I had to had to bump this one...........It was a live execution with some mercy sprinkled on though.

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              • MJ406
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                #27
                Addison stop polluting the board with mindless ******ity

                shut up dude. every time there's a Cotto fight you not only bet against Cotto, but you pollute this board with all the bull**** articles about what Mosley, Gomez, or any opponent of Miguel Cotto can/will do to win the fight.

                and to answer your question .. Gomez needed a shot gun to win tonight. a ****ing ******* vs Cotto woulda done the trick

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                • tyson
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MJ406
                  shut up dude. every time there's a Cotto fight you not only bet against Cotto, but you pollute this board with all the bull**** articles about what Mosley, Gomez, or any opponent of Miguel Cotto can/will do to win the fight.

                  and to answer your question .. Gomez needed a shot gun to win tonight. a ****ing ******* vs Cotto woulda done the trick
                  **** off, douche!

                  Addison contributes to this board several thousand times more than you ever will.
                  You don't know Addison's mindset or how he thinks, so you just assume he's ******. How ****ing ****** of you, sheep.

                  If you have failed to notice, his posts contain reasoning for his words.
                  He points out things you would never have noticed.
                  He likes to point out the underdog's strengths and enjoys putting up some alternative thoughts to go with all the repetetive bull**** that we see in here.

                  You seem to even lack the basic common sense and ability to ask yourself why he might do what he does.

                  You have 646 posts and not one single voting...
                  How ****ing generic and boring can a mother****er be?

                  I'll give you a nice, shiny new 1 star rating for sheer ******ity

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                  • Njord777
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tyson
                    **** off, douche!

                    Addison contributes to this board several thousand times more than you ever will.
                    You don't know Addison's mindset or how he thinks, so you just assume he's ******. How ****ing ****** of you, sheep.

                    If you have failed to notice, his posts contain reasoning for his words.
                    He points out things you would never have noticed.
                    He likes to point out the underdog's strengths and enjoys putting up some alternative thoughts to go with all the repetetive bull**** that we see in here.

                    You seem to even lack the basic common sense and ability to ask yourself why he might do what he does.

                    You have 646 posts and not one single voting...
                    How ****ing generic and boring can a mother****er be?

                    I'll give you a nice, shiny new 1 star rating for sheer ******ity
                    Addison is a great poster here so there's no need to disrespect him. I agree I was shocked that he picked Gomez- who I said who get simply outclassed...and he did. Earlier in this thread I picked a window of 5th-7th round TKO/KO for Cotto. It was fairly close to what I thought would happen. I am completely lost as to why a someone as intelligent as Add picked Gomez. I read the posts explaining it and was still scratching my head; and I generally agree with Addison on things- but to throw any disrespect his way is deplorable.

                    Anyway, Addison- what was it? Did Cotto surprise you, or what?

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                    • MJ406
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                      #30
                      reasoning? reasoning?

                      how can you say that's reasoning, that a fighter with 8 ****ing knock outs .. in Gomez is going to kayo Miguel Cotto

                      your saying I "lack the basic common sense " read the bold..
                      it makes absolutely zero ****ing sense.

                      maybe not 0 .. but pretty close to it.

                      Mosley and Judah are much harder punchers and they couldn't do **** to crack Cotto's chin, not even knock him down. What made you or anyone think Gomez could?

                      I just see alotta anti Cotto in his posts

                      pulling for the under dog is fine and all .. I have no problem with that. but why post all the articles about what the fighters are supposed to do to Cotto .. who cares, talk is cheap.

                      wasn't Gomez supposed to out box him, and didn't Judah/Mosley/insert fighter say they were gonna Kayo Cotto?

                      kudo's to him he posts a lot more then me, but some of his Cotto **** I find annoying, and I don't even really like Cotto all that much.

                      i just think it's ****** to talk about Cotto's flaws .. when Gomez can't exploit them what so ever.

                      does that make "basic common sense" or does it make too much sense?

                      going into this fight I knew it was going to be a roadkill, so yeah it is nice to see the other side .. but give it a rest already ... Mosley and Judah were supposed to beat Cotto also, and that didn't happen

                      move on to Margarito or something .. his chances are surly better.

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