Marquez: "Next Time I Knock Pacquiao Out"

[kadyo's]

crazy, we're trying to have a serious discussion and it never fails.

Marquez schooled pac and lost!!! Yeah very serious. Lololol

[bluediamond1196]

thats not true, according to GBP, the contract that Marquez signed stated that if Marquez were to win, he would have to give Pacman the rematch.

Perfectly right! but in addition to the contract.. "If Pacman wins, he will not be obliged for a 3rd fight to JMM". Well, might be sounds unfair but who dictated the contract? I mean who have the larger voice? the one who have the superfluous popularity or the less popular one? Much more, the contract signed by both with their absolute free-wells! JMM had all the chances to refuse for the contract but he didn't.. so who's to blame????

[Chups]

crazy, we're trying to have a serious discussion and it never fails.

A little commercial doesn't hurt.

[bluediamond1196]

i meant that JMM practically schooled him BOXING wise but Pac's strength is too much for him. Thats the only thing that propels Pac over Marquez. his power. if Pac had average power, it would be a different story but he doesnt. Its PAC's power. Its not the judge's, its not circumstance, its his natural god given power and he won. Simple as that. Me saying that Pac won because of his power is no where close to an excuse because having power is being part of a fighter.

Yes, JMM must schooled Pacman by his superior skills in counter-punching and if the situations demands he launched his offensive punching which clearly connected to Pacman. Well, i agree but for boxing reality is not only how many times you hit the target but how to KO him is the most essential substance. If JMM schooled Pacman on his skill superiority.. Pacman just got 40% as maximum, and if Pacman schooled JMM, he'll got the maximum of 60% to learn that skills alone will not secure winning in boxing because oftentimes dominated by power-punching! As long as JMM will not learn this he will never win to Pacman!

[2501]

Juan Manuel Marquez has become the biggest PPV attraction from Mexico south of 147. He doesn't need Pacquiao since he can generate a LOT of PPV hits for GBP. He can fight anyone and make hoya tons of moolahs. chinga!!! haha!!

crazy, we're trying to have a serious discussion and it never fails.

[kadyo's]

Juan Manuel Marquez has become the biggest PPV attraction from Mexico south of 147. He doesn't need Pacquiao since he can generate a LOT of PPV hits for GBP. He can fight anyone and make hoya tons of moolahs. chinga!!! haha!!

[2501]

Dude, your homeboy is in the Philippines, just saw him on tv.

you're a little late on that. check the threads on the first page. for my opinion on what happened.

[noypi2]

ok your right 100% a ok.

Dude, your homeboy is in the Philippines, just saw him on tv.

[2501]

Let me refreshed you with some facts, Team Manny Pacquiao said "No matter what the result will be, he will move up to 135 lbs., win or lose".

thats not true, according to GBP, the contract that Marquez signed stated that if Marquez were to win, he would have to give Pacman the rematch.

[bluediamond1196]

Pac most certainly does have a lot left to prove against Marquez. Apart from the knockdowns in either fight Marquez won probably about eighty percent of the rounds very clearly and many people still have him well ahead of Pacquiao in both fights. Pacquiao has the edge but no one can say that their business is finished. If anything, it is now more important that they fight again than it was the first time.

Marquez has been the only guy of late, and he won't last much longer being 34 already, to be able to out-box Pacquiao and win the large majority of each fight only losing because he knocked down. To me, and everyone else...apart from you I guess, that means that a third absolutely must happen because they most certainly have something to prove.

If anything I think Pac has more to prove now than he ever did. He was at times getting very clearly beaten by Marquez and by most peoples account was quite lucky to get away with a win. I think even the most hard-core Pac fans can see that there needs to be a third fight between these two because the last fight just put more questions up in the air and once again showed that Marquez can most certainly, and in many folks' estimation did, beat Pacquiao.



Human? You seem to forget that he has already been viciously knocked out cold twice and nearly a couple more times than that. Though I do believe that if they fight again it should be at the same weight they just fought at. Marquez is getting too old to move up again. He has lost a step and is more offensive now and that would not be the best way to go at Pac after moving up another weight.

After all the concessions he made I do believe he deserves to get the fight, if they ever have it, at his proposed weight. Though that will never happen of course.

Honestly though, aside from all the bitching, Pacquiao bias and Marquez hating, who here would rather see a fight between Diaz and Pac than Marquez and Pac? I know I certainly wouldn't!

Let me refreshed you with some facts, Team Manny Pacquiao said "No matter what the result will be, he will move up to 135 lbs., win or lose". So comprehensive that he's not turning his back to JMM for the 3rd rematch but he just after for the commitment of the plan leading to greener pasture! 3rd rematch with JMM will just derail the plan, plain and simple! Afterall, nothing more to proves after the 2 matches bec. if ever in the 3rd bouts ended the same way which is more likely, another split razor-thin decisions again either way to Pacman or JMM then the boxing fans requests will be infinite! But the boxers will ends up from internal hemorrhage.. As Pacman said, "The business is over!", and if not over for the fans then the business is solely for the fans, not anymore to Pacman! sorry.....