James Toney has a more legitimate weight loss excuse then Jones....

[Vladimir303]

.....did for the losses against Tarver and Johnson. In fact I'm not sure you can call it an excuse....but an explanation on why he performed so poorly against RJJ.

Here is a quote from an article about James Toney prior to facing Roy Jones:

Six weeks prior to the fight, Toney weight 214 pounds. At weigh in, he was down to 167, a loss of 47 pounds in just six weeks! After the weigh in, Toney was hooked up to intravenous tubes in order to replace lost body fluids, and they remained in his body all night. Just before entering the ring the next day, Toney weighed himself in the locker room: 186 pounds, meaning he had gained 19 pounds in less than 24 hours.

Sounds terrible to go though all of that. And I have a hard time believing that someone with Toney's skills wouldn't even be competitive against Jones unless something was wrong with him. Toney is the type of fighter who even in a losing effort is competitive, same as Hopkins was his entire career.

Great read about Toney btw, here is the entire article for those who haven't read it:

http://www.hbo.com/boxing/events/2006/0318_rahman_toney/columns/james_toney.html

[rusticraver]

Cheers mate! one of my fave fighters somethign to read at work

[Kilrain]

Read Dark Trade: Lost in Boxing for a comprehensive account of the Jones-Toney fight

[SkillspayBills]

The smaller you are the harder it is to lose weight as well. Toney, however, ALWAYS had to lose a ton of weight before fights. ALWAYS.

[KingTito]

that sounds rough

[AntonTheMeh]

i heard about this when they showed legends of the ring and they gave toney vs jones.he had an eating disorder.dude loves to eat.

[THe TRiNiTY]

They are a bit hard to compare, however. Jones had to lose a six-pack of muscle, Toney had to lose the six-packs.

[Kball15]

One of the few times you will ever see "Weight Loss" and "James Toney" in the same sentence

[Vladimir303]

They are a bit hard to compare, however. Jones had to lose a six-pack of muscle, Toney had to lose the six-packs.

Bull****.....what Toney went through was horrible.

Despite Jones losing muscle, I don't think he complained until he actually got in the ring with Tarver. Even prior to the fight, Jones would tell us how he was feeling good and the weight was coming off fine.

Not with Toney.

[AntonTheMeh]

i'll tell you this much he did it to him self.james toney actually took that **** seriously,he would been an alltime great.could you imagine,james toney,bernard hopkins,roy jones,gerald mclellan at middleweight fighting each other?amazing would be era of middleweight.watch toney vs nunn,toney was awesome.