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  • C'MONMANG'
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    #11
    Originally posted by 2501
    so then you are saying the average MMA fighter gets paid more than a Boxer? How bout this, are the 20 most FAMOUS MMA fighters making remotely what the 20 most FAMOUS boxers are now?
    MMA hasnt been around as long as boxing.. dont worry they will...

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      #12
      Originally posted by nfc90210
      That works on the assumption that the crossovers are going to be elite level at both sports. Credible sources confirmed that one-year Tito Ortiz with his PPV cut etc took home nine million dollars from the UFC. That doesn't include sponsorship money etc either.

      Most boxers aren't going to make nine million in one year. There is no reason for someone like Tito to try his hand at boxing because..

      a) He won't be as good at it.
      b) It pays him more to stick to MMA.
      You just used Tito Ortiz as an example. Tito Ortiz is not your average MMA fighter. His status in the MMA world is legendary. So while most boxers arent going to make nine million dollars in one year, a fighter who may have the equal status of Tito Ortiz in the Boxing world, say, Felix Trinidad, can make double that WITHOUT sponsorship.

      Explain to me how a a B Level MMA fighter will make more than a B level Boxer?

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        #13
        nevermind, just realized the dude is practically agreeing with me.

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          #14
          Originally posted by nfc90210
          That works on the assumption that the crossovers are going to be elite level at both sports. Credible sources confirmed that one-year Tito Ortiz with his PPV cut etc took home nine million dollars from the UFC. That doesn't include sponsorship money etc either.

          Most boxers aren't going to make nine million in one year. There is no reason for someone like Tito to try his hand at boxing because..

          a) He won't be as good at it.
          b) It pays him more to stick to MMA.
          You take a boxer of equal fame and weight as Tito Ortiz, and Have them fight as many fights as Tito, I guarantee the boxer will bring home more than double what Tito does.

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            #15
            Originally posted by blackirish137
            Not trying to start anything or make another useless topic, but this seems to come up once in a while, and I just want to clarify. obvisouly, if you stick a boxer in mma hes not going to do as good either as in boxing(for the most part) but I just want to kind of put to an end stuff like 'How would Kimbo do in boxing?' and all that...

            Keith Jardine, top guy at 205 who beat Liddell recently...
            "Keith Jardine was sent to the hospital after the fight. Cordova was unhurt. This fight was voted "Robbery of the Year" by New Mexico fight fans, with the resounding belief that "Cordova should have won". against a guy who was 3-0, all those 3 wins coming over guys who had never had a boxing match before...

            Roman Zentsov, who has decent wins, including a 1st round KO over Pedro Rizzo...http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...3632&cat=boxer

            Mark Hunt, a K-1 Champ who has a win over Mirko Filipovik and is one of the best strikers in boxing...http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...8555&cat=boxer I dont get it either, cause mostly all Hunt does is punch...

            Mighty Mo, a big guy in kickboxing(beat Choi and Bojansky) and so far undefeated in mma(but early in his career...)http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...6526&cat=boxer that Lamar Stephans fellow broke Mo's jaw http://youtube.com/watch?v=P9zQOxzty1I

            Trey Tellingman, used to be real big in the UFC back in the day...http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0871&cat=boxer

            Patrick Cote, hes pretty big in the UFC right now http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0979&cat=boxer

            Ray Sefo, who doesnt really have a mma career, but is extremely well known in kickboxing http://youtube.com/watch?v=JgLOctdxlsc

            and these are just a few examples....Im not really going to bother going out of my way to look this stuff up...but basically, mma guys(for the most part) are going to be able to beat some bums who have ****ty records or have never fought prefessionally before, but they aint gonna get far, even if theyre considered one of the best strikers in mma.
            not trying to 'hate on mma' or whatever goofy things some of yall like to say...just trying to answer any questions on how mma guys would actually end up doing in boxing if they participated.

            can you post those guy's MMA records? thanks

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              #16
              Sadly, most MMA fighters don't know how train yet. Specially in striking. Most of them don't even know how to gage their range. Most of them just train hard, not realizing they're doing most of it wrong. I can only name you one guy for sure that trains like they're supposed to and that is St. Pierre, maybe Silva, but I don't know how he trains.
              With that being said, boxing has been developing as a sport for about a century or so and has been refined, while MMA has only been around in America for about a decade or so and is pretty much a diamond in the rough. So when this fighters from MMA try to transition to a more refined form they don't get away with being sloppy. They lack a lot of not only striking but skills in general.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Pinoy_Texan
                Sadly, most MMA fighters don't know how train yet. Specially in striking. Most of them don't even know how to gage their range. Most of them just train hard, not realizing they're doing most of it wrong. I can only name you one guy for sure that trains like they're supposed to and that is St. Pierre, maybe Silva, but I don't know how he trains.
                With that being said, boxing has been developing as a sport for about a century or so and has been refined, while MMA has only been around in America for about a decade or so and is pretty much a diamond in the rough. So when this fighters from MMA try to transition to a more refined form they don't get away with being sloppy. They lack a lot of not only striking but skills in general.
                man you are ignorant......

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by blackirish137
                  Not trying to start anything or make another useless topic, but this seems to come up once in a while, and I just want to clarify. obvisouly, if you stick a boxer in mma hes not going to do as good either as in boxing(for the most part) but I just want to kind of put to an end stuff like 'How would Kimbo do in boxing?' and all that...

                  Keith Jardine, top guy at 205 who beat Liddell recently...
                  "Keith Jardine was sent to the hospital after the fight. Cordova was unhurt. This fight was voted "Robbery of the Year" by New Mexico fight fans, with the resounding belief that "Cordova should have won". against a guy who was 3-0, all those 3 wins coming over guys who had never had a boxing match before...

                  Roman Zentsov, who has decent wins, including a 1st round KO over Pedro Rizzo...http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...3632&cat=boxer

                  http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4868&cat=boxer

                  Mark Hunt, a K-1 Champ who has a win over Mirko Filipovik and is one of the best strikers in boxing...http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...8555&cat=boxer I dont get it either, cause mostly all Hunt does is punch...

                  Mighty Mo, a big guy in kickboxing(beat Choi and Bojansky) and so far undefeated in mma(but early in his career...)http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...6526&cat=boxer that Lamar Stephans fellow broke Mo's jaw http://youtube.com/watch?v=P9zQOxzty1I

                  Trey Tellingman, used to be real big in the UFC back in the day...http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0871&cat=boxer

                  Patrick Cote, hes pretty big in the UFC right now http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...0979&cat=boxer

                  Ray Sefo, who doesnt really have a mma career, but is extremely well known in kickboxing http://youtube.com/watch?v=JgLOctdxlsc

                  and these are just a few examples....Im not really going to bother going out of my way to look this stuff up...but basically, mma guys(for the most part) are going to be able to beat some bums who have ****ty records or have never fought prefessionally before, but they aint gonna get far, even if theyre considered one of the best strikers in mma.
                  not trying to 'hate on mma' or whatever goofy things some of yall like to say...just trying to answer any questions on how mma guys would actually end up doing in boxing if they participated.
                  http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4868&cat=boxer

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                    #19
                    thousands of wrestlers are now competeing in MMA/ UFC






                    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...3617&cat=boxer

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by nfc90210
                      That works on the assumption that the crossovers are going to be elite level at both sports. Credible sources confirmed that one-year Tito Ortiz with his PPV cut etc took home nine million dollars from the UFC. That doesn't include sponsorship money etc either.

                      Most boxers aren't going to make nine million in one year. There is no reason for someone like Tito to try his hand at boxing because..

                      a) He won't be as good at it.
                      b) It pays him more to stick to MMA.

                      Credible source???

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