Abraham/Pavlik/Hopkins

[pesticid]

AA is being dissed for his level of opposition. The talk of Pavlik is pretty much that he hasn't done anything yet, and it's too early to say if he's one of the better middleweights of all time. Meanwhile Bernard is considered one of the best if not the best middleweight of all time and the opposition that he's faced is not really better. SO maybe we should lay off the "oh he is a bum" remarks.

Abraham:
Ian Gardner
Hector Velazco
Eastman
Kingsley Ikeke
Kofi Jantuah
Edison Miranda
Demers
Ghevor
El****
Ayala

Pavlik:
Zuninga
McKart
Zertucci
Miranda
Taylor (2)

Hopkins:
Segundo Mercado
Steve Frank
Joe Lispey
William Bo James
John David Jackson
Glen Johnson
Andrew Council
Simon Brown
Robert Allen (3)
Echols (2)
Syd Vanderpool
Keith Holmes
Trinidad
Daniels
Hakkar
Joppy
DLH
Eastman
Taylor (2)

PS: Bhop lost twice to Taylor, drew with Mercando and his biggest two wins are against a former lightweight and a former welterweight.

[deanrw]

I don't think Abraham is a bum by any means. I think there is something not right with him though. I personally think he has trouble making weight and is suffering from stamina issues. He has to take too many breaks in the ring. Against someone like Pavlik that would be suicidal.

Abraham does seem like a good guy and he now wants to fight outside of Germany. I wish him luck but I think by the end of the year you will see him venturing to Super Middleweight.

Pavlik is still not totally proven, but seems to have the balls to face anyone. Now it is up to Arum to let him. If Arum doesn't, well then it shows he does not have much confidence in him.

Hopkins has proven his worth to me. His fights past the age of 40 does not affect what he has accomplished in my opinion. Sure he fought his share of fringe guys, but when you chock up over 20 defences, well there are bound to be some in the mix.