Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

the next person to say haye will be 'exposed' should be banned from boxingscene.... how can you expose an undisputed champion who cleared out his division in 22 fights? i mean seriously...

[beez721]

Carl Thompson was good.

he was a better fighter than purrity obviously,,but he was also 40 yrs old and not a big puncher,,,and purrity as limited as he was,,,was a big strong heavyweight with a granite chin and gave good fighters problems when he was in good shape which was rare. anyway both losses were due to inexperience. both guys punched themselves out. in wlads case he was only 21 yrs old and had never been past the 6th round at that point and after dominating the first 9 rounds totally ran out of gas. both guys get too much criticism for those losses. they were both flukes in my opinion and would have won easily in rematches

[duffgun]

Wlad would be favorite if he can establish the jab Haye will have trouble, Saying this Haye does very well against stand up boxers if Haye can counter Wlads jab Haye might have a chance, I think this would be a well good fight and it would bring some media attention to the division. I am not sure who to go for the obvious choice is Wlad but I really want Haye to win.

[sparked_85]

he was a better fighter than purrity obviously,,but he was also 40 yrs old and not a big puncher,,,and purrity as limited as he was,,,was a big strong heavyweight with a granite chin and gave good fighters problems when he was in good shape which was rare. anyway both losses were due to inexperience. both guys punched themselves out. in wlads case he was only 21 yrs old and had never been past the 6th round at that point and after dominating the first 9 rounds totally ran out of gas. both guys get too much criticism for those losses. they were both flukes in my opinion and would have won easily in rematches

Yeah I agree. I've never watched Wlad/Purrity but I know to hold no stock in it whatsoever.

I can forgive a fighter a loss early in his career. Haye's is not to bad because it was against a very good fighter who just knew Haye would blow his load and took advantage if he didn't get KO'd. Carl the cat is as tough as old boots.

For the same reason I still think Andy Lee will make a splash at middle.

A loss can accelerate a career.

[Derranged]

Everyone is too good for Wladimir and would knock him out into the third row, until he beats them, then the guy who Wladimir beat was never any good anyway. Lets see how Haye does against a DECENT HW first.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

Yeah I agree. I've never watched Wlad/Purrity but I know to hold no stock in it whatsoever.

I can forgive a fighter a loss early in his career. Haye's is not to bad because it was against a very good fighter who just knew Haye would blow his load and took advantage if he didn't get KO'd. Carl the cat is as tough as old boots.

For the same reason I still think Andy Lee will make a splash at middle.

A loss can accelerate a career.

precisely, and if you look at the thompson fight haye was actually beating the living **** out of him and taking him to school. It was just a stamina and experience thing

[rusticraver]

one thing haye is not is HYPE..

Look what he has achieved so far. Look what he did to Bonin a durable TRUE (but ****) heavyweight. Destroyed him every time he landed Bonin went down.

He has true power and speed and he will look even faster at heavy.

[DURAN_IS_GOD]

one thing haye is not is HYPE..

Look what he has achieved so far. Look what he did to Bonin a durable TRUE (but ****) heavyweight. Destroyed him every time he landed Bonin went down.

He has true power and speed and he will look even faster at heavy.

am i right in saying that bonin had never been stopped?

i remember watching that fight on sky and thinking how shocked bonin looked with haye's power. he punches through the target so well

[rusticraver]

He landed bombs at will, i think Bonin has been TKO on cuts. Haye looked like a monster at his natural weight

[catskills23]

what puncher has bonin fought to test his chin besides haye. Dont get carried away. Haye has power but he wont be one of the hardest punchers at heavyweight. A guy who sparred with haye and herbie hide said hide hit much harder than haye.