FLOYd might one day BE MORE POPular than ALI.....!!!!

[SkillspayBills]

This thread isn't even about Floyd being more popular than Ali(which will never ever happen). He IS infamous. That has got him where he is and it has made him the draw that he is today. How the hell can 35 people say he is not a draw where the two common denominators in the biggest fights of 07 were Floyd and money.

[revs1227]

horus is so weird

[Horus]

horus is so weird

Im weird but you Voted that Mayweather is not a Draw in 2008...??

Your the one who is weird....

Oscar is the only Active person Bigger than Mayweather Right Now and Nobody Else..... Numbers and Facts proved that...But you guys refuse to accept Facts..!!


If Mayweather is not a draw why don’t the cotto fans want Cotto to fight Hatton instead of Mayweather or De La Hoya instead of Mayweather..?

If Mayweather is not a draw Why all the cotto fans wANT Mayweather to give Cotto a chance to become a star like he did for hatton..?

If Mayweather isn’t a Draw why even care if he fights in Boxing or the WWE..?

IF Mayweather isn’t a draw Why dont THE PEOPLE who voted that proved that he isnt a draw by not supporting him negative or positive and they Should have no interest in him... But we know they are not going to do that

Therefore Since Mayweather is not a draw YOU GUYS should Publicly Declare you will not Support anymore Mayweather threads...

And Stop contradicting yourselves by saying he is not a Draw but you are the main one's drawing all the attention to him and the one’s who are in all the Mayweather Threads and Making Most of the Threads... and watching all the Mayweather events when he is on T.V



In Addition since you voted he is not a DRAW...Stand by your VOTE...
And prove he is not a DRAW to you
by not Supporting anymore Mayweathers threads, Fights, or anything Mayweather name is on Since he is not a big enough Draw to warrant even your Attention or vote....




STAND UP AND STICK BY YOUR vote.....

I am calling out All People who voted that he wasnt a DRaw in 2008...

[Horus]

Ok First I want to say I can understand why you dislike him...
BUT to suggest he is not A DRAW... is letting your emotions control your thinking instead of your brain...

YOU SAID:

If Floyd is such a big draw that he feels he his, then why not use his so-called star power to pull in those big numbers fighting guys who aren't Oscar or Hatton?

Why would you take away his to most successful fights....
Would take away from other fighters most successful fights and then say that they can not sell....

Be fair.. Dont used Double Standards to justified your points..
Used one standard to judge all fighters....

I address just this point:

the "Double-Standard" FLOYD on Has on him is Amazing. Floyd is Held to a Standard No Fighter in History is Held too,,,


"Mayweather Double-Standard"



1. Cant Fight Nobody who is his same size or smaller then him or it isnt a fair fight...
(Have to fight Bigger Opponents for the fight to be Fair...)
2. No tune up's fights
3. Gotta be Fighting every 4 Months..
4. Gotta focus only on Boxing
5. Cant fight for Money, He has to fight to proved what he already is.. and that is Number #1
6. Anybody he fights and beats is a bum until somebody else beats them, then that's that Fighter career Achievement.
7. You only can Compare Floyd to All Time Greats or it dont Count
8. Floyd whole resume doesnt Count... Just only 2 years of his resume
9. Floyd cant turn down no fight...
10. Floyd must Fight every fighter in Boxing to proved he is Number #1

Like the saying goes...

Whatever applies to Floyd, apparently doesn't apply to anyone else. And what doesn't apply to Floyd, applies to everyone else. It's a circle.

" Floyd only sold 325k with no name Baldomir... he's not a REAL STAR"

"WOW Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys!! They are the true stars of boxing!"



You said:

"If Floyd is this superstar that he claims to be, then why should he have to wait till Cotto becomes a star? Fact is, Floyd uses his 0 in conjunction with his opponents popularity in order to draw fans into purchasing tickets and ppv's for his fights. "


I address this point already.... but here is a summary..

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=169907
(Just read the first part of this Post)

FLOYD VS. COTTO

Floyd is Spoiled Now, He is not fighting in anything less than Events from now on....and his last 2 fights have been Events to not just the Boxing World but for the Sport and Entertainment world...

Look how much Promoting Floyd had to do for the Hatton FIGHT....
"Dancing with the Stars"

Look what he is doing for the next De La Hoya Fight
"WrestleMania"

Now what do you think he is going to have to do for the Cotto fight if he chooses to fight him right now...
"American Idol"...???

Sorry Cotto Fans,
Floyd is not going to do anything special for the Cotto and Arum to build this fight

Floyd is expecting Cotto and Arum to do something Special to build this fight Simply because he does not like Arum

example..: He is suing Arum for pocket change just cause i believe....

And that something Special is Getting those other 2 belts..!!!

Cotto is not a Draw outside of Boxing Yet so he has no choice but to get those belts to fight Floyd or become a mainstream Attraction...

And Floyd knows Cotto doesnt have a personality so the only option Cotto has is to become GREAT. and get those 2 belts.!!!...



Man I know yall might think I hate Cotto..I DONT...
I just Understand reality

Somebody Please Argue these points...

[Lazy Liberal]

Floyd is popular , no doubt. He however lacks personality, its bland and seems forced. He does not possess Sugar ray Leonard charm.

I voted notorious based on my opinion that more peolple want to see his ass kicked than people who root for him. Yes, he has fans but I would venture to say more would want to see him flat on his back twitchin and ****. In the end, it don't matter if he is loved or hated, cause he gets paid at the end of the fight regardless.

To answer your question, he will never reach Ali level. Ali took stances on social and political issues, which angered a large part of America. Floyd just comes out as a prick who doesn't know the word humble.

[Lazy Liberal]

Floyd is popular , no doubt. He however lacks personality, its bland and seems forced. He does not possess Sugar ray Leonard charm.

I voted notorious based on my opinion that more peolple want to see his ass kicked than people who root for him. Yes, he has fans but I would venture to say more would want to see him flat on his back twitchin and ****. In the end, it don't matter if he is loved or hated, cause he gets paid at the end of the fight regardless.

To answer your question, he will never reach Ali level. Ali took stances on social and political issues, which angered a large part of America. Floyd just comes out as a prick who doesn't know the word humble.

Agree or disagree?

[Horus]

Popular vs.Notorious

Popular : regarded with favor, approval, or affection by people in general

Notorious: publicly or generally known, as for a particular trait
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THE TITLE was just to get you guys to c0me into the thread.... FLOYD will never be as popular as Ali....PERIOD!!!

People think you have to be popular in order to be a draw.....THAT is a MYTH..., and FACTS just dont support it...


The point of this Thread is Floyd doesnt need to be popular to be a draw....
His drawing power comes from being Notorious, and being a celebrated fighter
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ALI

The most popular fighter to ever live is Ali....
But for most of Ali career he was the Most "Notorious" fighter in the game....He wasnt loved, he was reguarded as a big mouth and ****y.....just as Floyd is today..

Ali didn’t become Popular until He "lost" not to Frazier but to the Government...
When People saw what the U.s Government was doing to Ali.. he became popular AND a fan favorite...

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Floyd

Floyd Mayweather is adding to his popularity everyday and he added to his “popularity” even more in the Hatton fight. He had overwhelming support because of the British fans booed the National Anthem...
You can hear the fans Screaming "U.S.A" and "FLOYD" throughout the whole fight....But I think that was just for that fight you never know though

But Now...


"Floyd is more Notorious rather than popular."

Floyd Mayweather is the most "Notorious" fighter in the game... He is without a doubt the most “Famous”
His "Fame" is second to only Oscar among Active Fighters
He is the most "Revered" boxer in the game... Floyd will never be the most Popular (loved) fighter right now because he has chosen to take the bad guy road... it doesnt meaned he isnt popular but he is more Notorious right now rather than Popular
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History

As of right now I don’t think WHAT Floyd is doing is a bad thing....
Some of the most "Famous and successful" people history has ever known
Have been more "Notorious" than Popular... or Have been "Notorious" before they became "Popular"

Al Capone
2pac
Biggie
Ali
Malcolm X
Kobe Bryant
Terrell Owens
Deion Sanders
Britney Spears
Charles Barkley
Scarface (Tony Montana)
The list goes on....
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My Point

Floyd notoriety and fame is what sell's the fight's not his popularity ....
Floyd being "Notorious".... sells the fight

People just don’t come to see Floyd lose just like they just didn’t come to see Ali lose...

People come because they are interested in Floyd.
He is a "hot rod" for debate as we see in the millions of threads, articles, stories, and interviews we see made about him....

If you think Floyd wasn’t half the reason for the first de la hoya P.P.V numbers then your crazy...

If you think Floyd wasn’t Majority of the reason for the Hatton fight then you’re crazy...


Floyd's widespread reputation of being "Notoriously" a great fighter and an Arrogant Person is what makes Floyd the most famous fighter in the game...

HBO, WWE, Rock Star understands this that's why they give him so much money...

The whole Boxing world Understands this that's why he is the most "Famously Celebrated" fighter in the sport.....

Oscar is the most Popular Fighter in the Sport
Floyd is the most "Notorious".... and "Celebrated"

Floyd like it or not, Is the 2nd Biggest Draw in the sport not because he is popular.....It is because he is "Notorious"....



Let's The HATE CommEnsE...!!
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THIS IS FOR WARP...

Please proved me Wrong..!!

[Horus]

As i said before All the people who voted floyd wasnt a draw, are still in all the Mayweather Threads...

[Horus]

*BUMP*

[Ryn0]

No he won't Ali was doing what was almost unheard of since Johnson, he was breaking all the social rules that Black people should've obeyed at the time. Looking back his courage to stand up to the mostly white community is what make him so popular, Mayweather is doing nothing new he's just being an ass and he's terrible at playing the "bad guy"