Do you agree that team marquez is a bunch of whiners?

[kadyo's]

Points to those who can articulate well. Discuss...

[loui_ludwig]

Bro, the fight is over. I am sure if Pac lost, Team Pac would whine too. Its not only JMM too, there are fighters who whine when they get defeated in a close fight.

[kadyo's]

Bro, the fight is over. I am sure if Pac lost, Team Pac would whine too. Its not only JMM too, there are fighters who whine when they get defeated in a close fight.

LOL i'm talking about facts not of the would have could have should have.

[loui_ludwig]

LOL i'm talking about facts not of the would have could have should have.

It was a closed fight that can go either way. No need to start another hate war.

[kadyo's]

It was a closed fight that can go either way. No need to start another hate war.

Hate war? that's being presumptuous. Nobody's hating just plain boxing discussion LOL.

Anyway, I assume you don't agree that they are bunch of whiners so please leave... lol

[USA4LIFE]

When it's a close fight like that I don't blame any fighter who whines. Every top class fighter feels he has the skills to win every fight and you have to be confident and yes even a little ****y to make it in this sport. These guys are in a sport where 1 loss can do massive amounts of damage to one's career, only the special one's can continue with a few loses here and there, I don't need to name some I'm sure you know a few. He felt he won, he has every right to, when you give as much as these two guys give in every fight especially in a close fight how can you blame him or any fighter for complaining a little bit? Most fighters whine when they lose a close fight, you know this.

[loui_ludwig]

Hate war? that's being presumptuous. Nobody's hating just plain boxing discussion LOL.

Anyway, I assume you don't agree that they are bunch of whiners so please leave... lol

No. Why? The fight was close.

You know this kind of thread will start a hate war.

[Addison]

I have to acknowledge without any suggestion, without any outside references - the bitter reactions of both Juan Manuel and Rafael coming so close together in the last few weeks is just too much to ignore.

I'm a fan of both guys and would have enjoyed seeing both of them being declared winners, but their reactions seemed unfitting considering the legitimate closeness of the fights they were in.

Particularly Rafael, who appeared to lose his fight fairly clearly, and yet somehow managed to act like he was the victim of a Santa Cruz or 88' Roy Jones Olympics style robbery.. That was offensive.

The Marquez' interpreter/handler guy was the one bitching in both cases so he made it impossible to miss, or forget..

The Marquez brothers weren't just angry or frustrated, they were overtly emotional.. I don't remember seeing anything like it in Boxing for quite awhile -if ever.. Calling them whiners or cry babies would be completely fair all things considered. They know damn well nothing will change the outcome.

[raysan]

Marquez put his heart and soul into a fight he had been wanting for over 4 years. Arum was already lining up fights for Pac even before the outcome, and in a close fight where his belt was taken, i dont think there was any other way for Marquez or his team to act, and they thought something shady had happend. Now with many others agreeing that Marquez won the fight, and Pac dismissing a rematch (probably the biggest fight out there for both) I can see exactly where team Marquez is coming from and would be just as upset. JMM is a winner even in "defeat", I just hope people acknowlege his place in history because all of his losses could be seen as wins.

[2501]

damn, some people cant let **** go. just because people are split on the fight, Filipino fans HAVE to find something else to complain about. the fight is over, ANOTHER great fight happened yesterday, why dont yall talk about that one? are you guys boxing fans or just Pac fans?