Amazing fight but ridiculous outcome JMM vs Paq

[MaYaN_SuN]

That fight was beyond awesome, but what the **** @ the outcome!?

I mean I always knew Paq would get exposed again, especially if, and when he tries to move up. But I honestly didn't think it would be against Marquez again! Not like that anyways, Paq was hurt to the body AND head. I was ****in shocked to see that, that was a great fight. Even the countdown HBO had before the fight got me properly ready for this bout lol. All around it was a great night for the sport.

Now I really think the move up in weight actually has helped Marquez just as much as it has helped Manny. I mean Juan ate some flush lefts and even won those same rounds. I mean the only 2 shots that actually got Marquez good, were the 2 punches he didn't see coming. He was durable as could be at 130. I mean he got knocked down while reaching, but Barrera did the same to him. Thats one of Marquez' few flaws. When Juan over commits to a punch, he's right there in the wheel house to get dropped. Point wise it hurts, but his performance stays on point. (That was awesomely said, I didn't even mean to do that.) He got up both times (against Barrera and Paq) to sting his opponents over and over. I guess Marquez is one of those guys that can get knocked down and not be fazed. lol Like that **** didn't even really happen to him, ask him about getting knock down and Juans like "ehhh, I just felt like sittin down." lol He gets up and keeps goin like it completely didnt happen. That was amazing to see, again.

As for Paq I don't think Paq's right hand really makes a difference now that he's moved up and now that he has to fight fresh bodies. And I think it will be even less effective if he keeps moving up. I think its safe to say that his suggested "improvements" was all hype. I mean he has improved, but I don't think it really makes a difference. Fightin the likes of bums, and tender versions of MAB, and Erik will help showcase those improvements, obviously, but after last Saturday...lol That mushroom head, can, and will, have problems with any fresh body they put in front of him. I mean if a fresh muscled up and even slower Juan can rock him over and over this late in Marquez' career, I'm almost positive that any names that have been mentioned as future Manny opponents are going to be able to do the same. I even think David Diaz has more then a slight chance to walk through any and everything Manny has to get a W, but thats for a different thread.





Now the decision...

Punch stats, just from sight, I had Juan havin a field day. I mean just from sight, he landed pretty much when he wanted to or when he felt he had to. The stats supported that in favoring Juan in every category. So I knew I wasn't ****in blind or seein ****. I mean someone else obviously saw it too.

12th round to Manny? lol Really? (Proof no man under the age of 35 should be able to judge prize fights.) I mean if anyone gave Manny the last round, you gotta wonder what other delusions that guy might have seen throughout the fight.

Now with the obvious delusional judge, and the fight being won by one ****in lucky ass, smidgen ass, random ass, weak ass point lol. Then you take into consideration of what you ACTUALLY ****in saw. Guy outpoints other guy, rocks him repeatedly throughout the fight, flawless combinations up the ass, counter moves that make you turn to the guy next you like "oOoOoOoOoOOOooo you see that ****!?"........all that, and a weak ass one point difference actually makes sense. One old ass, blind ass judge, with a obvious ridiculous scorecard, you knew some bull**** was gonna go down lol. I knew it right after they read that crazy scorecard that Juan was gonna get stiffed. I just didn't see enough from Paq for him to get the official nod.

You sit back and look at both performances, and to call Juan's masterpiece second best to Paq's 'sloppy ass finger painted with his own fecal matter 1st grader painting lol,' (dude just hopped around and got that mushroom head of his tagged lol), to call Juan's masterpiece second best to that nasty ****, is just..I don't know, I seriously can't wrap my head around that kind of logic.

All in all that was one of the best nights for boxing we've had, especially if you were into it as countrymen. But aside from that ridiculous single point lol, I was amazed to say the least at what took place in that ring. That and their first fight will forever be my favorites, and I never even would have expected that from either bouts. Marquez really just exposed this guy again, for the second time in a row. Him and his camp can be as pissed as they want, for all the uncessescary pressure that promoters and corny ass boxing writers put on Juan and his people, and how they labeled Paq as a "Mexican Executioner," just cause Paq fought 2 older Mexicans with now tender bodies, him and his camp can say whatever the **** they feel like lol.

Speakin of that pressure, lol Juan ate that **** up man, lol he ate that **** friday night, woke up Saturday morning and farted, talkin about he likes his pressure ****ier then that, talkin about if he could go back in time, and get a stronger serving of pressure, he'd do that **** lmao. I wonder if he really knew that he could get by Paq, like he knew his training was the X-Factor or somthin, and thats why he was all cool about havin all that pressure on his back to begin with. ****in Dinamita, lol that dude is ice cold in those situations. That **** was amazing to see, again.

[Silencers]

It was a close fight that could've gone either way, the only clear rounds for either were rounds 2 and 8 for Marquez and 3 and 10 for Pacquiao.

Edit: And Pacquiao had improved, both on defense and offense but as I said in another thread, I think Roach is trying to make Pacquiao something he isn't and it's starting to show in the ring.

[xzworks]

... but i think its even.. coz the first fight in the first round the score must be 10-6...

[KILLA RIGHT]

Imo It's Jmm 2 Manny 0

[MaYaN_SuN]

Imo It's Jmm 2 Manny 0

Yeah, Paq's been out performed twice by Juan. Point wise (mind you those are meaningless points) it's a toss up. But performance wise, who actually showcased some crazy skill and witts. It's been Marquez twice.

[MaYaN_SuN]

It was a close fight that could've gone either way, the only clear rounds for either were rounds 2 and 8 for Marquez and 3 and 10 for Pacquiao.

Edit: And Pacquiao had improved, both on defense and offense but as I said in another thread, I think Roach is trying to make Pacquiao something he isn't and it's starting to show in the ring.

I think his improvements shine on bums and tender older fighters. Against fresh strong bodies, I mean Larios' durability alone took Paq 12, and Larios even landed a heavy hook in that fight that actually crossed Paq's eyes.

Now if Paq's biggest wins are against Morales and Barrera, lol Both too tender for punishment, and both unable to throw some real heavy shots, basically, it's like gettin a boner just cause you saw Hatton drop Castillo. I mean Paq has improved, I just don't think it really matters since now he has to face not only bigger guys, but bodies that are more fresh then anything.

[2501]

a valid question: Has Pac's improvement in the boxing aspect of his game actually taken away from what made him so dangerous?

[Silencers]

I think his improvements shine on bums and tender older fighters. Against fresh strong bodies, I mean Larios' durability alone took Paq 12, and Larios even landed a heavy hook in that fight that actually crossed Paq's eyes.

Now if Paq's biggest wins are against Morales and Barrera, lol Both too tender for punishment, and both unable to throw some real heavy shots, basically, it's like gettin a boner just cause you saw Hatton drop Castillo. I mean Paq has improved, I just don't think it really matters since now he has to face not only bigger guys, but bodies that are more fresh then anything.

Pacquiao isn't the most well schooled guy but he finds ways to win. He beat Morales the second time, Morales was weight drained but he wasn't shot. The first Barrera fight, Pacquiao dominated him, distractions or not, Barrera never got dominated like that. Apart from the first few rounds, Larios was beaten soundly by Pacquiao and was hurt in the last round.

You also have to remember this is a guy that started his career at 106 pounds so he's already fighting naturally bigger men, what he's accomplished is no easy feat.

[Silencers]

a valid question: Has Pac's improvement in the boxing aspect of his game actually taken away from what made him so dangerous?

I feel it has in a way, Roach is trying to make him into more of a pure thinking boxer but what made Pacquiao so dangerous was his unpredictability, I think he's becoming a bit predictable now because you can almost see him thinking about what to do in the ring where before he used to let his instincts take over and that was what made him so effective, but Roach does have the right thing in mind for longevity.

[bestboxingonly]

Pacquiao isn't the most well schooled guy but he finds ways to win. He beat Morales the second time, Morales was weight drained but he wasn't shot. The first Barrera fight, Pacquiao dominated him, distractions or not, Barrera never got dominated like that. Apart from the first few rounds, Larios was beaten soundly by Pacquiao and was hurt in the last round.

You also have to remember this is a guy that started his career at 106 pounds so he's already fighting naturally bigger men, what he's accomplished is no easy feat.

very well