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  • warp1432
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    #11
    Bob Arum only made Margo fight Paul Williams when the WBO made a threat to take away his title for not fighting his mandatory. So looks what happens next after Margo lose to Williams, Arum puts him in with Golden over the hill - never has been Johnson
    Actually Margarito wanted to fight Paul Williams because Goosen was offering a career high payday and Margarito believed that it would be an easier fight then Cotto. Arum wanted him to fight Cotto, but he had to settle with Williams.

    and now Arum says because of what Margo did to Johnson he is back to being a serious contender and now everyone is ducking him again, and now Margarito is GIVEN another title shot after beat some guy Boxing has buried decades ago.
    Or more like Cintron called Margarito out and wanted to avenge a loss. I hate Margarito, but this sounds ignorant.

    This aside, Bob arum is a hypocrite. He said during the JMM Pacquiao II post presser that the thrid fight would need to build up more. So it can cause a greater supply and demand or whatever.

    Then he accuses Mayweather of ducking Cotto. What happened to the "letting it bake in the oven" stuff Bob?

    Though **** all that, we need to see Mayweather Cotto and if Mayweather doesn't fight Cotto after De La Hoya, I'll be pissed.

    The WBO did force a mandatory, but they only took it because Williams was giving Margarito a 80% deal and Goosen offered to give Margarito like 400,000 dollars more.

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    • Horus
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      #12
      Bob Arum is a hypocrite, and when I see Actually arguing his points.
      I asked myself do these people relize that Bob Arum is the main reason boxing was dying...


      For this Man to attack somebody motive's in boxing is Terrible...
      And Shouldnt even be consider as a valid argument


      BOB ARUM words has No meaning to me..
      Because his words doesnt stand for anything...

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      • Welter_Skelter
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        #13
        Originally posted by Horus
        Arum's horns have really been exposed. Props again to Oscar and Golden boy promotions and Lou Dibella promotions, on showing us how it is supposed to be done. Look at the Heavyweight division of today. That’s Don Kings impact as of today not yesterday.

        Don King does not care anything about boxing. He is in it for the Dollar bill just like that crook Arum.

        Bob Arum only made Margo fight Paul Williams when the WBO made a threat to take away his title for not fighting his mandatory. So looks what happens next after Margo lose to Williams, Arum puts him in with Golden over the hill - never has been Johnson

        and now Arum says because of what Margo did to Johnson he is back to being a serious contender and now everyone is ducking him again, and now Margarito is GIVEN another title shot after beat some guy Boxing has buried decades ago.

        It gives boxing a bad look with promoters trying to position guys who are unworthy for title shots that they do not deserve. Beside cintron an espn PPV I might add, Clottey and Williams Margo really has not fought anyone.

        I think with Don King and Bob Arum having less and less of an influence on the matchups these days. Is what is saving Boxing

        I think boxing will continue to prosper and will return to being one of the major attractions that it once was. Believe me I am not a big fan of Oscar, but I do respect and gives him props for what he has accomplished in the ring throughout his career. But I will give him credit Golden boy promotions does seem to give us fans the matchups that we really want to see unlike

        King and Arum. King still controls some portion of the Heavyweight Division and that is why that division is limbo right now. Don King was so desperate he brought Tito back out of retirement to fight RJJ who should have retired on top after the Ruiz fight.

        Bob Arum is a hypocrite, he like's to say other fighters are "afraid to lose and that's ashamed"
        and now that same Bob arum does not want to make a Pavlik-Winky fight, because it's not a "big enough" fight. That is ****ing ridiculous. Winky Pavlik would sell more than Pavlik-Lorenzo or Pavlik-Sturm or any other 160 pounder.

        The plain fact is Arum Thinks he can eat from all sides of the table(boxing) but when somebody else trys to eat from that table the same way he has He has a profound problem with that. And He suddenly start saying things..like "We need to stop the business fights."

        Well Bob Arum follow your own words and Make the Winky Pavlik fight Happen. BUT HE WONT.....

        Bob Arum is scared of Winky Wright just like he is scared of a JMM vs. Pacquiao III rematch, or a fight with Juan Diaz. And was scared of Paul Williams. Winky already said Pavlik can have the lion's share, so what does Arum do? When confronted with the info, he basically says "Winky brings nothing to the table and hangs up the phone".


        This is exactly why the fight will not be made. Arum is scared to death of Winky. Pavlik, champion he is, says let's get it on, but Arum won't even explore the possibility. Why? Because Kelly might (key word is might) lose to Winky, where as he will kill Lorenzo, Sturm, or Duddy.

        This is the exact reason Why People Have a certain distain for Bob Arum..
        He is Killing Boxing.

        BoB ARum is a walking contradiction, using his own words "We need to stop the business fights." Bob that includes you too...!
        I didnt read all of this Horus.. I am a Gen Xer.. I probably have Mild A.D.D

        But I did want to say.. It was bound to happen that we would agree on something.. And Yes Those men are crooks and Liars..

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        • Horus
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          #14
          Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
          I didnt read all of this Horus.. I am a Gen Xer.. I probably have Mild A.D.D

          But I did want to say.. It was bound to happen that we would agree on something.. And Yes Those men are crooks and Liars..



          Never thought this day would come...

          LOL...

          Now i have only the rest of the cotto fans to unite....

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          • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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            #15
            A Pavlik-Winky fight is not a big enough fight because HBO will NOT pay enough money to satisfy the financial demand of
            Winky. Winky says that Pavlik can get the lion's share of purse, but he doesnt tell you that he wants more money than Pavlik or Taylor made for their rematch. Sure Pavlik can have 10 mill as long as Winky gets 9.

            That's a lot of money for Arum to invest in a ppv that would have to get at least 4-500 buys to break even. What has Winky done in the last few years to earn a 9 mill pay day? or a title shot? De La Hoya is willing to take a tuneup but Winky is not. He wants to go right into a title shot.

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            • Horus
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              #16
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              A Pavlik-Winky fight is not a big enough fight because HBO will NOT pay enough money to satisfy the financial demand of
              Winky. Winky says that Pavlik can get the lion's share of purse, but he doesnt tell you that he wants more money than Pavlik or Taylor made for their rematch. Sure Pavlik can have 10 mill as long as Winky gets 9.

              That's a lot of money for Arum to invest in a ppv that would have to get at least 4-500 buys to break even. What has Winky done in the last few years to earn a 9 mill pay day? or a title shot? De La Hoya is willing to take a tuneup but Winky is not. He wants to go right into a title shot.

              Sources Please..


              And my point is that.. Bob Arum is a walking Contradiction, he Lies, and and he is full of Hypocrisy.


              Bob Arum is a hypocrite, he like's to say other fighters are "afraid to lose and that's ashamed"
              and now that same Bob arum does not want to make a Pavlik-Winky fight, because it's not a "big enough" fight. That is ****ing ridiculous. Winky Pavlik would sell more than Pavlik-Lorenzo or Pavlik-Sturm or any other 160 pounder.

              The plain fact is Arum Thinks he can eat from all sides of the table(boxing) but when somebody else trys to eat from that table the same way he has He has a profound problem with that. And He suddenly start saying things..like "We need to stop the business fights."

              Well Bob Arum follow your own words and Make the Winky Pavlik fight Happen. BUT HE WONT.....

              Bob Arum is scared of Winky Wright just like he is scared of a JMM vs. Pacquiao III rematch, or a fight with Juan Diaz. And was scared of Paul Williams. Winky already said Pavlik can have the lion's share, so what does Arum do? When confronted with the info, he basically says "Winky brings nothing to the table and hangs up the phone".


              This is exactly why the fight will not be made. Arum is scared to death of Winky. Pavlik, champion he is, says let's get it on, but Arum won't even explore the possibility. Why? Because Kelly might (key word is might) lose to Winky, where as he will kill Lorenzo, Sturm, or Duddy.

              This is the exact reason Why People Have a certain distain for Bob Arum..
              He is Killing Boxing.

              BoB ARum is a walking contradiction, using his own words "We need to stop the business fights." Bob that includes you too...!
              Last edited by Horus; 03-21-2008, 01:19 AM.

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              • Horus
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                #17


                I think this is a great Article into the Relationship and Rift Between Floyd And Bob Arum....

                Overall I think Floyd Thinks Bob Arum Was Holding Him Back...
                And Floyd Ending Up Being Right...!!!

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                • Akatsuki
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Horus

                  Sources Please..


                  And my point is that.. Bob Arum is a walking Contradiction, he Lies, and and he is full of Hypocrisy.


                  Bob Arum is a hypocrite, he like's to say other fighters are "afraid to lose and that's ashamed"
                  and now that same Bob arum does not want to make a Pavlik-Winky fight, because it's not a "big enough" fight. That is ****ing ridiculous. Winky Pavlik would sell more than Pavlik-Lorenzo or Pavlik-Sturm or any other 160 pounder.

                  The plain fact is Arum Thinks he can eat from all sides of the table(boxing) but when somebody else trys to eat from that table the same way he has He has a profound problem with that. And He suddenly start saying things..like "We need to stop the business fights."

                  Well Bob Arum follow your own words and Make the Winky Pavlik fight Happen. BUT HE WONT.....

                  Bob Arum is scared of Winky Wright just like he is scared of a JMM vs. Pacquiao III rematch, or a fight with Juan Diaz. And was scared of Paul Williams. Winky already said Pavlik can have the lion's share, so what does Arum do? When confronted with the info, he basically says "Winky brings nothing to the table and hangs up the phone".


                  This is exactly why the fight will not be made. Arum is scared to death of Winky. Pavlik, champion he is, says let's get it on, but Arum won't even explore the possibility. Why? Because Kelly might (key word is might) lose to Winky, where as he will kill Lorenzo, Sturm, or Duddy.

                  This is the exact reason Why People Have a certain distain for Bob Arum..
                  He is Killing Boxing.

                  BoB ARum is a walking contradiction, using his own words "We need to stop the business fights." Bob that includes you too...!
                  Pac-JMM 3 will surely happen again after it's success on PPV.. We just have to wait after he beats David.... JUAN DIAZ? He got his ass beaten by Campbell right now so his market value is low.He has no belts right now. Campbell would rather do good because he is the undisputed LW Champ...


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                  Last edited by Akatsuki; 04-05-2008, 06:02 AM.

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                  • tyson
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                    #19
                    Keep bitching, girls!

                    Ain't gonna dooo shiiiit

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                    • Mech.
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Horus

                      He is making Business Fights..


                      That's the Double Standard


                      Originally posted by Horus


                      Floyd just Started his business why would he stop making business fights..??

                      lmao, talk about a double standard.

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