Pacman becoming a lightweight.

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  • wmute
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    #21
    The way pac looked at 130, he should be able to do some damage at 135 too.

    Oh wait... ALL of his opponents were former 122 and 126 fighters. Not sure.

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      #22
      Originally posted by wmute
      The way pac looked at 130, he should be able to do some damage at 135 too.

      Oh wait... ALL of his opponents were former 122 and 126 fighters. Not sure.
      They weren't exactly young either.

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        #23
        Originally posted by ?
        i wont feel sad if he would lose 1 time then win the rest just like what happened to him on the featherweight division. but i hope he won't lose because that would make xcaret really happy
        As long as his power carries with him to lightweight i dont see him losing at all. Unless he lied about his problems making the 130lb limit and he's just lazy to cut weight the extra poundage should actually give his punches more oomph as he doesnt burn as much energy to throw em and have the extra weight behind it. Only 2 ways Pac doesnt become undisputed lightweight champ is he lied and he really isnt a natural lightweight now. or if JMM chases him to lightweight and loses a 3rd bout. The latter is more likely but i dont think that'll happen either cuz its obvious marquez will never take offensive initiative when Fighting Pac so will never win close decisions.

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          #24
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          They weren't exactly young either.
          very true, but I think that even the shot/old/a bit past it versions of morales, barrera, marquez are still very good, but they are not 130 fighters. I mean 130 definitely had some bigger people as their top names a while ago: Mayweather, Corrales, Hernandez (Chicanito, not Famoso), Casamayor, Freitas.

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            #25
            Originally posted by wmute
            very true, but I think that even the shot/old/a bit past it versions of morales, barrera, marquez are still very good, but they are not 130 fighters. I mean 130 definitely had some bigger people as their top names a while ago: Mayweather, Corrales, Hernandez (Chicanito, not Famoso), Casamayor, Freitas.
            It reminds me a lot of what Hopkins did. He fought older big names from smaller divisions. I think Pacquiao gets a pass though, because he started lower than all of his big name opponents, he just gets some criticism because they were old.

            The amount of credit he gets is irrelevant to predicting how he will do at 135, you are correct about that.

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              #26
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              It reminds me a lot of what Hopkins did. He fought older big names from smaller divisions. I think Pacquiao gets a pass though, because he started lower than all of his big name opponents, he just gets some criticism because they were old.

              The amount of credit he gets is irrelevant to predicting how he will do at 135, you are correct about that.
              I think Hopkins gets a pass too, because he was way older than all of his big name opponents! Even more of a pass, because he cleaned up all of 160 while waiting for the big names to fight him.

              I really dont mind that Pac fought the “old mexican featherweights”: all those fight made sense, no matter the weight. I mind when I read people saying he “dominated the best at 130“... It's always like this, I think I love almost every fighter, but I am pretty much disgusted by a large number of fans.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Chups
                Salvador Sanchez is the greatest featherweight.
                What makes Sanchez the greatest featherweight of all time? He looked great against Danny Lopez (who with talent didn't?) and a smaller Bazooka Gomez, but he was no Will O' The Wisp.

                Pep went 143 fights with only one loss, fought all comers, and even came back from a plane crash to continue as champion. It's unfortunate that because of how time has dimmed memories, Pep is largely forgotten.

                Sanchez was great and would've been greater had he not died so young.

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                • T-97
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                  #28
                  I think David Diaz is a very managable fight for manny. But i think Hatton at light welterweight is an absolutly ****** ass idea. Hatton would be too strong for Manny imo, an Ricky would get no credit for that win-like Hopkins V Wright. But LW he will do OK. But Pac is not the best featherweight of all time lol

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                  • nelsoncm
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by sanga
                    lol, i hate the fact that he is a womanizer.
                    Given the same situation and opportunity, wouldn't you be?

                    Besides, you'd probably be more astonished if he had something intimate with a **** sapien with balls.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      pacman is the best featherweight of all time?
                      Why not.

                      Give me a fighter than tops his resume?

                      Salvador Sanchez?

                      From what I know he died young so the could have, would have doesn't matter.

                      Give me a feather guy who has a resume comparable to wins over JMM, MAB and Morales.

                      I'm scratching my head coz I can't think of none.

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