The Ring Belt, Do We Really Recognized It?

[loui_ludwig]

The Ring didn't even have their policy in place when Pacquiao won his belts at 112 and 122.

They had it up until the late 80s, they didn't have it for awhile, and they re-did it back in 2002.

Pacquiao won a title at 112 in the late 90s and a title at 122 in 2001 over Ledwaba.

Furthermore, it simply depends on whom says it. Some people don't recognize the WBO so they say DLH is a 4 division titleholder instead of 6. Some people only go by linear champs and use "beltholders", and still consider Floyd Patterson the youngest HW champ ever and not Mike Tyson because when Tyson beat Michael Spinks for the linear title, he was older then Patterson was when he won the vacant title against Archie Moore.

I am not stating about Pac at 112 and 122 about the Ring belt. My main point is it really recognize?

About the WBO, in one of the past issues of Ring mag, they don't even consider him a 6 division champ. The mag wasn't counting the WBO belts that Oscar held.

[muppetman]

Do we? Is it legit?

I am bringing this topic since there was a post about it here due to the Pac-Marquez 2 result.

When Pac beat MAB, Pac got the Ring featherweight title. Pac also has won 2 titles in 2 weight division. When Pac is mentioned as a 3x division champ, critics say he is only 2. Those 2 are the IBF and WBC and they do not include the Ring belt. If it is, then you can consider Pac a 4 division champ after his close win over JMM.

We make fun and critize the big 4: WBC, WBA, IBF, and WBO. If a fighter wins an alphabet title, we consider them champions. If they win the Ring belt, we don't really accept that fighter as a champion.

YES MANNY PACMAN IS THE BEST.....I REALLY THINK HE SHOULD BE HOLDING ALL THE BELTS

[loui_ludwig]

YES MANNY PACMAN IS THE BEST.....I REALLY THINK HE SHOULD BE HOLDING ALL THE BELTS

I guess you did not get the point. I brought Pac as an example because he is the only one i can think of winning just the Ring belt in a fight. The Ring mag has awarded belts in a fight but usually it has one of the ABC titles on the line too.

[flipbjefrox]

not now.. there's a conflict of interest. Look at how Joel Cassamayor is being promoted now. He has his ring belt on and gbp is proclaiming him as the "champion" of 135. everyone knows it's nate campbell. And the way they commented and handled the pacquiao situation was a bit fishy. They didnt publicly state that casssamayor lost the fight, yet they went out of their way to inform everyone that marquez won the fight. Strange, i guess that's what happen when a promoter is your boss

[Ryn0]

I don't recognise the ring championship. A fighter like Hopkins has the Ring belt but he doesn't need it he can get fights off his name alone.

[ATFsven]

i dont care much for the ring belt now that Golden Boy owns it.

[JakeNDaBox]

I don't acknowledge it or any other title in my articles, other than fighters universally regarded as champions of their division.

The Ring has the right idea, but their ratings are just as subjective as anyone else's, and their lack of research - or even desire to conduct any - detracts from their credibility (if they have any left).

Personally, I;m of the opinion that fighters should be ranked from 1-10 and that the whole concept of having a fixed champion is ******. All it does is prompty guys from 1-10 to stand in line and wait for a shot at the top, and also allows the champion to cherry pick his way. The Ring claims that in such cases, they'll encourage them by means of belittling them in print (the pen-is-mightier-than-the-sword theory), but that's usually when fighters declare that they don't give a flying **** about a magazine title.

Ignore 'em all, I say. Makes life much easier.

[deuce_drop]

i recognize the Ring Belts and their Champs, mainly because, there is more scrutiny in the way they award their belt than the sanctioning bodies. they look at fights and accomplishments, basically the title is given by peers or people who work in boxing media, which is far more harsh and critical than any of the alphabet organizations, who basically give fighters their rankings on kick backs and payoffs, all hidden by some semi legit, but still shady way of ranking fighters.

the credibility of the Ring Magazine is far superior over any of the sanctioning bodies and has been for a long time running...............too bad it doesn't get the credit that it should.

[Chups]

the credibility of the Ring Magazine is far superior over any of the sanctioning bodies and has been for a long time running...............too bad it doesn't get the credit that it should.

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[Gareth Ivanovic]

I used to, but since GB owns it now it's hard for me to take serious.