FLoyD FaNs vs. CoTTo FaNs vs. FLoyD HaTers: LET'S CLEAR THE AIR !!!!!!

[Horus]

Like I said
List your Arguments and Post # Numbers where you proved me Wrong...

i will reply in the MORNING
i am going to sleep it's 2 in the morning and i got work tomorrow...


Remember that White Girl thing was proved Wrong on Post # 120 and 121

So list your other Arguments..!!

[Horus]

Nobody thinks I'm a Floyd hater. That's your way of making sense out of all this. I'm objective and can argue against biased things that support my favorite fighter.

In other words, I'm better then you.

POST # 128

Keeping it Flashy on these haters

Who could he be Talking About ...???



What your excuse Now...?

You need your Credentials ChecK

[Vladimir303]

It's Hilarious because you know That you have no Post where you have Proven me Wrong...

I think it was Hilarious too If i was in your Shoes..

But i have post of you back tracking
I have Post of you saying you was just guessing when you presented claims as facts...

I got you all over this thread...


Face it you had a Bad night tonight Go to bed..!!

You keep sinking and sinking like the Titanic. You have nothing but your lack of brain cells. Yes I agree I had a bad night for waisting my time trying to have a debate with a moron.

I got you for being a dip**** and saying useing 70% of America being white has anything to do with a 850,000 Hatton-Mayweather fight.

Yes Try to get some sleep. And comeback and ask me to prove you wrong again.

[Horus]

You keep sinking and sinking like the Titanic. You have nothing but your lack of brain cells. Yes I agree I had a bad night for waisting my time trying to have a debate with a moron.

I got you for being a dip**** and saying useing 70% of America being white has anything to do with a 850,000 Hatton-Mayweather fight.

Yes Try to get some sleep. And comeback and ask me to prove you wrong again.

POST You should Look At:

#54,60, 66/77, 79

I got you for being a dip**** and saying useing 70% of America being white has anything to do with a 850,000 Hatton-Mayweather fight.

Post # 121, 120

How you get me when i proved what i wrote about Hatton being white was a factor of some PPV buys since 70% of America is White ....??


People can read thROUGh this entire Thread and see you backing tracking and Not making Sense...


POST You should Look At as Why you had a bad Night:

Our back and Forth
Post #54,60, 66/77, 79, 85, 87,

White People Arguement:
Post# 9o, 92 , 120, 121

Cotto doesnt Have 3.6 million Supports Argument
Post # 101 (Got you Back Tracking and Changing your numbers up), 105

Post# 111 "You say Puerto Doesnt Have P.P.V or order P.P.V and they dont got HBO" (NOT MAKING SENSE)

My Response: #113 (I said how did they order the Trinidad fights then)


Goodnight..

[Vladimir303]

This clown is so funny resorting to these Kindergarden style responses to the point where I had to get personal and expose him for being so ******.

Horus, I'm gonna let you have it since your way of feeling victorious is by outlasting everybody and having the last post at all of your threads.

Usually Quality beats Quantity but I guess in Horus's world it's the exact opposite.

[Vladimir303]

P.s - I sure hope for your own sake that you're only 15 to 19 years old because then you have alot to lean and mature and get better. Because if you're not that young and you're in your mid 20's or hell even 30's, then I feel sorry for you, because there is no way to grow out of that ******ity and immaturity.

[NAPO]

COTTO WILL BEAT MAYWEATHER IS A FEAR THAT MAYWEATHER FANS WANT TO HIDE.THIS FIGHT WOULD BE SO HUGE ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY.


LOL AT HORUS TALKING ABOUT PPV SALES AND MONEY EVEN FROM EUROPE.

HORUS=

[Horus]

POST You should Look At:

#54,60, 66/77, 79

I got you for being a dip**** and saying useing 70% of America being white has anything to do with a 850,000 Hatton-Mayweather fight.

Post # 121, 120

How you get me when i proved what i wrote about Hatton being white was a factor of some PPV buys since 70% of America is White ....??


People can read thROUGh this entire Thread and see you backing tracking and Not making Sense...


POST You should Look At as Why you had a bad Night:

Our back and Forth
Post #54,60, 66/77, 79, 85, 87,

White People Arguement:
Post# 9o, 92 , 120, 121

Cotto doesnt Have 3.6 million Supports Argument
Post # 101 (Got you Back Tracking and Changing your numbers up), 105

Post# 111 "You say Puerto Doesnt Have P.P.V or order P.P.V and they dont got HBO" (NOT MAKING SENSE)

My Response: #113 (I said how did they order the Trinidad fights then)


Goodnight..

Soo now you are saying you are Giving it to me before you was saying you mad me look ****** ....And when i ask you to show me where you made me look ****** you couldnt do it....



You Had NO PROOF you started saying

"LMAO at the dip****-ed-ness. Now we have come to a point where I have to look for previous posts where I proved him wrong ."

Sounds like a cop out to me...

Hilarious. .....!!!

When I said you had a bad night last night i Proved you had a bad night I provided Proof..!!


Thats the difference between you and me... I speak from and with Facts and reason and You just Speak...

Once again if i am wrong point to the post where where you proved me wrong from something i said where and made me backtrack and change my story...

Because that excatly what i did to you...I made you change your story and statments and made you backtrack...!!!

Last night just wasnt your night..!!!



Argument Ended..!!

[Don Johnson]

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR All SIDES TO AIR OUT THEIR DIFFERENCES....

TO WHY THIS FIGHT EITHER MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW OR DOESNT MAKE SENSE RIGHT NOW...

I know soMe of you guys Don’t Like reading that Much So I turn this thread into 3 parts....So pick one of the Parts and read and respond...




Here is The Quote from one Floyd Fan:



To Elaborate on this Further:

I want to say this before I start...

My Name is Horus and I am a Floyd FaN

Although I do think Cotto is a good Fighter and would beat Most People..
I just think he is overHyped.. and I think Mainly as Soon as Mayweather beats Him people will say Cotto was a bum all along and discredit another one of Floyds victories...

Thats why i think Cotto should Beat the rest of the WW champions which is going to be 2 people after Apirl12th before he fights Floyd so there can be no doubts that he was the man Floyd had to beat to Solidify His Legacy....

Because Right Now if Floyd fights Cotto and wins they are going to say well he gotta fight Margarito,Quintania,Williams,Mosely,Berto, and so on to be considered Great.. and none of those fighters are great so really if Floyd fights Cotto right now and wins he will never be truly A All time great in your eyes because he didnt have great competition to fight against unlike

Sugar Ray Lenard who had Hearns, and Hagler
Ali who had Frazior and Foreman
Julio Ceasar Chavez Who had Taylor and Hector Camacho

Floyd only Has Corralles and Castillo really as amazing Victories
but floyd needs one more to Make him An All time Top 10 Fighter..

Floyd needs Cotto to become Great So Floyd can truly be Considered Great..

Or this will Never End...

I think Floyd is great already but he can never be consider truly a legend unless he beats another Great Fighter who everybody thinks was Just as great as Floyd was at the time or close to Floyd...

So if Floyd is going to retired like he says... Why Not retired Right after beating Cotto ..and the Cotto i want him to beat is a Cotto with all the Belts except Floyds belt..

And that would be a great Fight.....

That's the Kinda Fight Where Fighters really leave everything on the line to become the Undisputed Champion of the Division...and in Floyd's Case One of the 10 greatest Fighters of All time...

That's the kinda Fight That the Cotto vs. Mayweather Fight Should BE..


Now To my Thread....

1ST PART:

I have come to the Conclusion that Cotto Fans and Floyd Haters just don’t want to hear This....
I have being Stating Facts like this for Months and all they see in Cotto is that "Cotto" is the next person who the public thinks can possible beat Floyd...but their is one problem with this
They don’t even actually think that cotto can really beat Floyd...you will get a Selective few who believe it but not a majority...

That's what Makes Fights Great when both Sides think their Guy can win...
Right Now nobody really believes Cotto can Beat Floyd

They think Cotto can give Floyd a good Match but they do not think and believe He can actually beat Floyd,

Even the most hardcore Cotto fans will say if Floyd runs and boxes Cotto. Cotto will lose... They think the only way Floyd can lose is if Cotto can cut off the ring and Pressure Floyd..

Ask yourself this question
Has Floyd ever lost a fight where somebody did that....??

The answer is "No"

2ND PART:

*But it shouldn’t be that way, they should think No matter what Cotto will win...And right Now Cotto is not at the point where people actually think cotto can win...

*In Floyds Last 2 fights With Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya you had over 4 million people buying P.P.V at $59.95
Because they believe that their guy can actually beat Floyd

*That kind of belief is not with Cotto right now, they think Cotto can give Floyd a good fight but they do not Believe Cotto can Win...

3 Elements are needed for a Great Fight
1. Both Fighters Must Have a Huge Fan Base
2. Both Fighters Fans must believe that their fighter can win
3. Casual Fans must want to see the fight because they believe that both fighters can lose

And those 3 Elements are Not there with Cotto


*That's why I 100% agree with the statement that Cotto must win very impressive in his next 2 fights to convince more people he can actually beat Mayweather.

*Because Floyd’s stock is so high right now
That people are not going to buy a fight which they think Floyd is just going win another boring fight... They want to see Floyd actually get beat...

example:

Floyd vs. Oscar 2
(i dont think it is going to sell like it did last time because everybody thinks floyd is going to win again easy...)

Same with Cotto

*And Not enough People believe Cotto can actually Beat Floyd
and the causal fans don’t even know who cotto is, so you know they don’t think he can beat Floyd...

3RD PART:

While Floyd vs. Cotto right now will be a good Fight
(i would like too see it)
It wouldn’t be as big as Hatton and De La Hoya and
it wouldnt be as Great as it could of been if Cotto would have gotten to 2 other belts


Floyd vs. Hatton Numbers:2.5 Million P.P.V Combined
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=11766

Floyd vs. De La Hoya Numbers: 2.15 P.P.V Combined

Floyd is Spoiled Now, He is not fighting in anything less than Events from now on....and his last 2 fights have been Events to not just the Boxing World but for the Sport and Entertainment world...

Look how much Promoting Floyd had to do for the Hatton FIGHT....
"Dancing with the Stars"

Look what he is doing for the next De La Hoya Fight
"WrestleMania"

Now what do you think he is going to have to do for the Cotto fight if he chooses to fight him right now...
"American Idol"...???

Sorry Cotto Fans,
Floyd is not going to do anything special for the Cotto and Arum to build this fight

Floyd is expecting Cotto and Arum to do something Special to build this fight Simply because he does not like Arum ..

And that something Special is Getting those other 2 belts..!!!

Cotto is not a Draw outside of Boxing Yet so he has no choice but to get those belts to fight Floyd or become a mainstream Attraction...And Floyd knows Cotto doesnt have a personality so the only option Cotto has is to become GREAT. and get those 2 belts.!!!...

This is what I have been trying to say forever...
Cotto Stock isnt high enough to really convince Floyd and the Public that this could be a big event...

The Logic:

It's like this

Cotto need to build his name up without Floyd

Before he can even he can begin negotiations with Floyd...



It more like saying you want to bet me some money on a fight but when I ask where is the money you want to bet me, you say I will show you the money after the fight...???

And naturally I tell you no show me the money right now or no bet....
and we end up not betting because you didnt have the money.

The point is Cotto doesnt have the money to bet...

And You can’t begin negotiations unless you have something to negotiate with....!

And Cotto doesnt have enough to negotiate with...
Not more than De La Hoya
Not More than Hatton (Country vs. Country)
Not More than Pacqiao (Country vs. Country) (P4p vs. P4p)

Cotto needs to raise his Stock.... Period.!!

or

How about this, How about cotto fight Floyd for the same money he fought Mosely so floyd can make THe same money he made fighting Hatton...Since Cotto is not a marketable fighter yet outside of New York..??

that would be about around a 70-30 Split....

Who the **** types like that? You really need to take some keyboarding classes and learn how to type like a regular person.

[2501]

lmao 16 pages later horus has accomplished nothing but making himself seem like an obsessed 13 year old boy.