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  • beanstalk
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    #11
    I dunno. It's pretty easy to assume. If Guzman can beat all of those guys then he's pretty much unbeatable. Right now, I'd say JMM beat them all at 130.

    I'll definitely watch out for Guzman's next superfight. He's the next guy to watch.

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    • karlobarlo
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      #12
      Totally agree with you. He is broing as **** but I dont think PAC would land much on him. And if Guzman grew a pair of balls, with the speed he displayed against Barrios he could ****ing do damage to PAC. But not surprisingly Freddie Roach will never let that fight happen as he said himself. "its not that Guzman is better than Manny, its just that styles mkake fights and his doesnt suit Manny2 says Roach. Hahaha he knows what would happen.

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      • LondonRingRules
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        #13
        Originally posted by raysan
        Im not a fan of the way he fights, but I really think he could beat pac quite easily, why isnt he being talked about anymore, i know he had a little hype a while back. I thought JMM won the fight by a couple rounds, but it was obvious to see the reason it was close, was because his pride. I dont see Joan taking any of those chances, which could equate to a boring fight, so maybe its good this fight dont happen, but I'd say he'd probably have the best chance to dethrone Pac.
        ** You chaps seem to be a bit confused about Guzman.

        Marquez is not only past his best days, but a cautious fighter at best relying on countering offense for the bulk of his career. A very technical, but boring fighter from a fan's perspective and a poor match for Manny who's just too quick and powerful for him.

        Guzman younger, less wars, no pac damage, more talented, much more exciting fighter, but lacks discipline in his career thus far. Bad management in making and then pulling out of the Harrison title fight, a very winnable fight save Guzman can't make the feather limit anymore.

        All Arum wants to do is make superfights for Pac, or setups to promote the superfight. Guzman neither set up nor superfight. He could easily be a superfight if he steps up and makes some noise whichever weight class Pac moves to. No superfights at lightweight for Manny, so my guess is Arum might try to set up the Hatton fight.

        Hard to know what these promoters to do next as their ground always shifting as they hustle up the next fight. Guzman needs to step it up if he wants to be the Man in his division. Talent is there, but not an active fighter and a rep for being difficult to deal with.

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        • lesterprettyboy
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          #14
          Nah, Guzman would fall to PAC. This guy has no power. The last time he scored a KD was when he fought at 122 Lbs. JMM, aside from his A-1 counterpunching, actually has some pop. He even wobbled PAC many times during their 2nd fight(something EM nor Barrera was able to do)...PAC knows JMM can he hurt him thats why he was a bit apprehensive going all out...For Joan, though hes very slick, PAC would have no reservations going on attack mode since he knows the other guy cant hurt him(this guys cant hurt even tomato cans like Jandaeng..lol). PAC would probably laugh at Guzmans best punches and would swarm him with blitzkrieg lefts on the way to a UD.

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          • Gareth Ivanovic
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            #15
            Guzman would be a very interesting fight. I know Guzman ran the last few rounds against Soto which hurt him, but some other fights I've seen of him he was exciting, not totally boring like some have said. He's quick with his feet and hands and would be a problem for many. After Arthur he should look at getting a fight with JMM. If he beats him he could be on to bigger and better things.

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            • Katz
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              #16
              Originally posted by raysan
              Im not a fan of the way he fights, but I really think he could beat pac quite easily, why isnt he being talked about anymore, i know he had a little hype a while back. I thought JMM won the fight by a couple rounds, but it was obvious to see the reason it was close, was because his pride. I dont see Joan taking any of those chances, which could equate to a boring fight, so maybe its good this fight dont happen, but I'd say he'd probably have the best chance to dethrone Pac.
              This kind of fighters are killing boxing. Such as Mayweather Sr and his Jr.

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              • PrtyBoyDlicious
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                #17
                I want to see this fight! Guzman vs Marquez...JMM will definitely kick Guzman's ass...nuff said...

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                • Pico Hollywood
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                  #18
                  Guzman and pac would be a good fight..

                  I doubt Marquez would KO Guzman...I would say Guzman decisions JMM

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                  • -EX-
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                    #19
                    I think Guzman would beat Manny. Guzman is skilled and is working with the right trainer for that. Competitive but I see a decision for Guzman.

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                    • Sin City
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The_Executioner
                      I think Guzman would beat Manny. Guzman is skilled and is working with the right trainer for that. Competitive but I see a decision for Guzman.
                      Guzman don't need Mayweather Sr. He's there for publicity and to try and gain exposure.

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