Its Funny. MARQUEZ never fights until he bleeds

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  • Kball15
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    #1

    Its Funny. MARQUEZ never fights until he bleeds

    A couple of things

    A) Marquez always keeps his cool and remains within the gameplan... UNTIL he is either hurt, or more likely, starts bleeding. Every fight, watch any of his fights. the man.

    B) Pacquiao DEFINETLY hits harder now then he has in the past. He used to knock guys down because he was just so much faster and he would catch them with quick shots, but now he seems to be a very legitimate 1 punch KO guy.

    C) That cut Pacquiao got over his eye was caused BEFORE that punch they showed in the replay. I saw it when they were working on him in the corner. Idk the cause, but it wasnt that punch, i think it was a headbutt.
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    What I noticed is this was two guys in tip top condition Style vs Style and it was basically so close, that every time you watch it you will come out with a different outcome and arguement for both fighters.

    Especially if you are not biased to either guy.

    Pacman Def showed that he has gotten stronger which is stranger then hell...his punches were heavier people said when he goes up in weight he will lose his power but with him he seems to just get heavier hands as he gets bigger that left check hook it seemed hurt jmm so bad that he followed manny to his corner lol.

    I also saw that JMM still has the skills to beat anyone else! he was sharper because he went back to his old style of Counter punching which to me he is the sharpest counter puncher and he will always be stylistically a BAD match up for pacman because of his crisp counter punches and long reach advantage and timing.

    I wanna see how pacman does against david diaz, I would still like to see pacman vs baby bull...but now seeing how strong pacman is and how he came in at 145 he could hurt the **** outta the baby bull down the middle and with some crazy body punches especially since diaz just stays in front of you. Would be a exciting fight.

    I see pacman retiring in 2 years though.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Kball15
      A couple of things

      A) Marquez always keeps his cool and remains within the gameplan... UNTIL he is either hurt, or more likely, starts bleeding. Every fight, watch any of his fights. the man.

      B) Pacquiao DEFINETLY hits harder now then he has in the past. He used to knock guys down because he was just so much faster and he would catch them with quick shots, but now he seems to be a very legitimate 1 punch KO guy.

      C) That cut Pacquiao got over his eye was caused BEFORE that punch they showed in the replay. I saw it when they were working on him in the corner. Idk the cause, but it wasnt that punch, i think it was a headbutt.
      i dont know kball. i'm going to make the case that pacquiao doent have 1 punch ko power. yea he knocked down marquez but marquez recouped from all those on the button power shots.
      and pacquiao got clocked and showed the effects from marquezes power shots more than he's ever showed, unless you want to count that body shot that floored him in "96.
      am i the only one that seen manny winch and hurt by that constant left to the side punches from juan.
      the technical skills marquez exibited tonight rank #1 IMO. no one higher!!!

      i can't believe this scoring.
      i gave pac 3,4,10,and the 12th a draw.
      and if i really wanted to get tecnical the 4th with the kd could have been scored a 10-9 not a 10-8 because marquez was really whooping him before.
      and i really was leaning towards marquez taking the 12rd but thought for sure he was way ahead points so made it a draw.
      116-112marquez.
      man wouldnt be suprized if boxing scribes raise hell about the scoreing!!!

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        #4
        Originally posted by steelhead
        i dont know kball. i'm going to make the case that pacquiao doent have 1 punch ko power. yea he knocked down marquez but marquez recouped from all those on the button power shots.
        and pacquiao got clocked and showed the effects from marquezes power shots more than he's ever showed, unless you want to count that body shot that floored him in "96.
        am i the only one that seen manny winch and hurt by that constant left to the side punches from juan.
        the technical skills marquez exibited tonight rank #1 IMO. no one higher!!!

        i can't believe this scoring.
        i gave pac 3,4,10,and the 12th a draw.
        and if i really wanted to get tecnical the 4th with the kd could have been scored a 10-9 not a 10-8 because marquez was really whooping him before.
        and i really was leaning towards marquez taking the 12rd but thought for sure he was way ahead points so made it a draw.
        116-112marquez.
        man wouldnt be suprized if boxing scribes raise hell about the scoreing!!!
        Pacman does have more power now he was clearly hitting harder then ever! if you dont think so that knock down he did to JMM in the 3rd round was the worst JMM has ever been hurt in his career he was hurt worse then when MArco knocked him down...because jmm was following pacman back to his corner.

        also pacman stunned him with some crazy faded left over hand punch while falling down in the 9th.

        here is a video of the knock down of the 3rd round pacman didnt even throw his whole body into it then when they exchanged he almost had him down again but jmm grabbed the ropes.

        Last edited by Domain; 03-16-2008, 01:54 AM.

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          #5
          Marquez did seem to go out of his gameplan when he got cut and instead of boxing Pacquiao, he tried to fight Pacquiao, most of the time it hurt him more than helped him.

          I'm not sure about Pacquiao's one punch knockout power, he does hit very hard but I think it's more from his speed and his opponent's not seeing his punches coming that makes his punches dangerous, the amount of power punches he throws helps too.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Domain
            What I noticed is this was two guys in tip top condition Style vs Style and it was basically so close, that every time you watch it you will come out with a different outcome and arguement for both fighters.

            Especially if you are not biased to either guy.

            Pacman Def showed that he has gotten stronger which is stranger then hell...his punches were heavier people said when he goes up in weight he will lose his power but with him he seems to just get heavier hands as he gets bigger that left check hook it seemed hurt jmm so bad that he followed manny to his corner lol.

            I also saw that JMM still has the skills to beat anyone else! he was sharper because he went back to his old style of Counter punching which to me he is the sharpest counter puncher and he will always be stylistically a BAD match up for pacman because of his crisp counter punches and long reach advantage and timing.

            I wanna see how pacman does against david diaz, I would still like to see pacman vs baby bull...but now seeing how strong pacman is and how he came in at 145 he could hurt the **** outta the baby bull down the middle and with some crazy body punches especially since diaz just stays in front of you. Would be a exciting fight.

            I see pacman retiring in 2 years though.

            You're a pac just admit it already and stop with not biased bull****.

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              #7
              Originally posted by ferocity
              You're a pac just admit it already and stop with not biased bull****.
              a pac?

              wtf?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Domain
                Pacman does have more power now he was clearly hitting harder then ever! if you dont think so that knock down he did to JMM in the 3rd round was the worst JMM has ever been hurt in his career he was hurt worse then when MArco knocked him down...because jmm was following pacman back to his corner.
                also pacman stunned him with some crazy faded left over hand punch while falling down in the 9th.
                here is a video of the knock down of the 3rd round pacman didnt even throw his whole body into it then when they exchanged he almost had him down again but jmm grabbed the ropes.
                its obvious your blind. marquez was clocked but he wasnt out of it.he recouped.
                thats not 1 punch ko power! and also there are some that would of scored that round a 10-9 for pac because if you noticed marquez was beating him handley the entire round till 30 seconds.
                i made the mistake of watching that fight on that channel too and those announcers really slanted how hurt he was it in that round as anyone can see.

                oh... end of fight. did you notice pacquiao looked shocked when they announced he won and marquez looked shocked because they announced he lost!
                thanks for posting the vid clip.
                good karma!
                Last edited by STEELHEAD; 03-16-2008, 02:15 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by steelhead
                  its obvious your blind. marquez was clocked but he wasnt out of it.he recouped.
                  thats not 1 punch ko power! and also there are some that would of scored that round a 10-9 for pac because if you noticed marquez was beating him handley the entire round till 30 seconds.
                  i made the mistake of watching that fight on that channel too and those announcers really slanted it in that round as anyone can see.

                  oh... end of fight. did you notice pacquiao looked shocked when they announced he won and marquez looked shocked because they announced he lost!
                  thanks for posting the vid clip.
                  good karma!
                  no he is always like that when he wins a hard fought bout, Floyd jr does the same thing he cries after every hard fight thanking god.

                  Its a sigh of relief.

                  and I also notice you put a ton of points on Marq lol

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