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  • withoutthee88
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    #11
    I thought he beat Chagaev the first time and I think he'll ge the nod on the cards this time around. I think if he beats Chagaev in the rematch, he would be a perfect alternative for Haye's first fight at heavyweight. A slow 7-foot freak that would make Haye look unbeatable.

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    • STEELHEAD
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      #12
      Originally posted by withoutthee88
      I thought he beat Chagaev the first time and I think he'll ge the nod on the cards this time around. I think if he beats Chagaev in the rematch, he would be a perfect alternative for Haye's first fight at heavyweight. A slow 7-foot freak that would make Haye look unbeatable.
      i know haye is big in brittain and he looks so good against opponents that stand in front of him, but he's going to have to stop the posing and throwing pot shots and carrying his left down low all the time.he's gotten away with it so far.
      he better start out slow when he steps it up and fights the big boys.
      a fight with someone like eddie chambers could tell a lot about haye.
      and i think chambers with his head screwed on strait(he has to get rid of his dad in the corner) would beat him.

      i think a chagaev fight for the belt back would be the right move for valuev.
      valuev has got his jab working for him now. feel chagaev because of medical reasons is going down hill.
      Last edited by STEELHEAD; 03-11-2008, 08:48 PM.

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      • THE MASTERKUSH
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        #13
        Originally posted by withoutthee88
        I thought he beat Chagaev the first time and I think he'll ge the nod on the cards this time around. I think if he beats Chagaev in the rematch, he would be a perfect alternative for Haye's first fight at heavyweight. A slow 7-foot freak that would make Haye look unbeatable.
        james toney for haye first time out at hvywt
        and chagaev for valuev
        say you got some skills there withoutthe88

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        • Allucard
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          #14
          Originally posted by aussieboxer2320
          ffs watching that guy fight is not boxing hes a slow moving log that just paws at his opponent. boxing is about explosive power, nimble footwork , stamina,great technique, resilience etc.....thats what makes it great but these russian/eastern european heavyweights have none of this, except for perhaps power. i cant wait for a great heavyweight to finally come through and teach these fat asses a lesson. the only boxers out of this group who are actually talented are vitali and wladimir.
          We all do. I know it won't probably happen because he's not big enough but i sure would like to see Haye do what he said he would do in that interview. That would be awsome for HW boxing. Can you imagine just one guy cleaning the entire division? Not only the Russians are bad, also Peter who is number 2 is awful and can't throw a punch who doesn't end up in the back of someone's head. That says alot about the state of things. And all those guys have a fundamental vunerability: THEY ARE SLOW AS ****. If someone can hit the likes of Klitshcko with some lightning fast POWERFUL punches that guy would drop so dramatically and noone would cry. Same with the other guys who would take a couple more punches. I'm not talking about a OBESE fighter who throws widely, but some version of David Haye at HW. Fast, crisp and powerful.

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          • beez721
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            #15
            Originally posted by Allucard
            We all do. I know it won't probably happen because he's not big enough but i sure would like to see Haye do what he said he would do in that interview. That would be awsome for HW boxing. Can you imagine just one guy cleaning the entire division? Not only the Russians are bad, also Peter who is number 2 is awful and can't throw a punch who doesn't end up in the back of someone's head. That says alot about the state of things. And all those guys have a fundamental vunerability: THEY ARE SLOW AS ****. If someone can hit the likes of Klitshcko with some lightning fast POWERFUL punches that guy would drop so dramatically and noone would cry. Same with the other guys who would take a couple more punches. I'm not talking about a OBESE fighter who throws widely, but some version of David Haye at HW. Fast, crisp and powerful.
            wlad,,sultan,,,povetkin and even chageav are far from slow. they all have fasts hands for heavyweights

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            • Slotff
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              #16
              Originally posted by aussieboxer2320
              ffs watching that guy fight is not boxing hes a slow moving log that just paws at his opponent. boxing is about explosive power, nimble footwork , stamina,great technique, resilience etc.....thats what makes it great but these russian/eastern european heavyweights have none of this, except for perhaps power. i cant wait for a great heavyweight to finally come through and teach these fat asses a lesson. the only boxers out of this group who are actually talented are vitali and wladimir.
              Valuev was amazing against Laikhovich.

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