Steroids are steroids, and Roy Jones is a drugs cheat.

[Sin City]

Sorry but if you take something they sell at GNC, and is LEGAL while you are taking it... they literally have little andro tablets hanging right by the checkout at GNC, that your own mother can buy... thats a little different then shooting up with a syringe.

Thats like you going to GNC right now, buy a supplement that helps with your workout... and 6 years later they ban that substance. And try to tell you everything you accomplsihed means nothing because you took that supplement. Thats bull****.

If you want to talk about true steroid users, then talk about James Toney and Fernando Vargas. The Steroids they used were Illegal before and after they took them.

NOTHING that GNC sells carries TESTOSTERONE!!!
YET THEY FOUND REALLY REALLY HIGH LEVELS OF THAT IN ROY JONES. Yes he was taking GNC supliments but he was taking steroids along side with them.

[PeROxiDE]

Anybody like my new sig?

[THE REED]

NOTHING that GNC sells carries TESTOSTERONE!!!
YET THEY FOUND REALLY REALLY HIGH LEVELS OF THAT IN ROY JONES. Yes he was taking GNC supliments but he was taking steroids along side with them.

WRONG... the only thing he tested positive for was Andro. PERIOD. And it was legal while he took it.

[THE REED]

Anybody like my new sig?

LOL nice.....

[THE REED]

Look im not trying to form anymore enemies on this forum, or start this argument which has been beaten to death, you have all read my points, i have read yours. Im gonna lay it to rest.

[PeROxiDE]

Look im not trying to form anymore enemies on this forum, or start this argument which has been beaten to death, you have all read my points, i have read yours. Im gonna lay it to rest.

Me neither, but there are important points that need to be made that a lot of people don't understand. Surely you can accept that he gained an unfair advantage through use of steroids? I don't hold it against him, because I believe that same thing that you do, that it was in supplement he was taking, but I also am not wearing the blinkers that I think you might be. Forget the circumstances for a minute, he tested positive, he was juiced and he gained an advantage, end of.

[THE REED]

Me neither, but there are important points that need to be made that a lot of people don't understand. Surely you can accept that he gained an unfair advantage through use of steroids? I don't hold it against him, because I believe that same thing that you do, that it was in supplement he was taking, but I also am not wearing the blinkers that I think you might be. Forget the circumstances for a minute, he tested positive, he was juiced and he gained an advantage, end of.

If they later deemed it a steroid, then yes it may have helped his performance. But if you were to take a few ephedra tablets back when they were legal, your workout would also be great. There are plenty of things they sell at GNC, right now, that do increase your endurance, strength, and speed. Hell, Viagra and Cialis also increase your testosterone levels. They simply found that Andro was a little to unsafe to be on the market. But I can simply not throw his career away because of it. As there are many different types of steroids... And the fact that after the Richard Hall fight, he no longer tested positive for it, and continued to batter his competition, makes me realize, that substance wasn't some make or break with Roy. THe ones James Toney took are straight up Injectibles that make you increase muscle mass and rip your fat. But of course I understand what your saying.

[PeROxiDE]

If they later deemed it a steroid, then yes it may have helped his performance. But if you were to take a few ephedra tablets back when they were legal, your workout would also be great. There are plenty of things they sell at GNC, right now, that do increase your endurance, strength, and speed. Hell, Viagra and Cialis also increase your testosterone levels. They simply found that Andro was a little to unsafe to be on the market. But I can simply not throw his career away because of it. As there are many different types of steroids... And the fact that after the Richard Hall fight, he no longer tested positive for it, and continued to batter his competition, makes me realize, that substance wasn't some make or break with Roy. THe ones James Toney took are straight up Injectibles that make you increase muscle mass and rip your fat. But of course I understand what your saying.

It's good to finally talk to somebody sensible in NSB.....

[THE REED]

It's good to finally talk to somebody sensible in NSB.....

Yeah thats a relief.

For some reason, I can not get on that level with moofo.

[PeROxiDE]

Yeah thats a relief.

For some reason, I can not get on that level with moofo.

Some people are blind in their hate for a fighter and others are blind in their love for a fighter. When you get one of those, you are never going to get anywhere, they don't listen, just repeat the same bull**** point over and over and over....