I just saw Bute-Joppy

**Dick-Sucker** · 03-04-2008, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by Exciterx24

I had never seen a Bute fight and I must say I was not impressed. It took him 10 rounds to stop Joppy, a natural middleweight who must be around 7 years past his prime. I even gave Joppy a round in the fight, something that he could not do against Hopkins and Taylor and I will not even mention how Trinidad stopped him in 2001. I have seen many Joppy fights and I can say he had his moments in the fight. He was not winning rounds but he did show some of the ring movement and quick jabbing that made him a champion years ago. As for Bute, he has talent but needs a lot of work to do before getting in the ring against someone like Kessler. Calzaghe would beat him easily right now. I think a good fight would be against Lacy to see where they both stand in the crowded supermiddleweight division.

And people wonder why i get frustrated when they rank the guy 2nd to Kessler ahead of Mundine.

The guy is probably one of the most over rated fighters in the sport today. His hands are low, he would be picked off at ease.

**-Antonio-** · 03-04-2008, 10:10 PM

To Joppy's credit, he had a great chin at Middleweight.

**MELLY-MEL...** · 03-04-2008, 10:14 PM

bute is good, but i have stated for a while now that he is very overrated! he will not beat kessler, or clazaghe.

**Exciterx30** · 03-04-2008, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by -Antonio-

To Joppy's credit, he had a great chin at Middleweight.

I always thought Joppy had great offensive skill. His jab was snappy and quick, his footwork was good, and he knew how to move in the ring. However, his defense was subpar and that was his downfall against elite opponents.

**Steak** · 03-05-2008, 01:19 AM

I dont know, I was pretty impressed with how well he took care of Bika and Berrio...theyre pretty good competition. James Obede Toney was a good win too.

**Run** · 03-05-2008, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by -Antonio-

To Joppy's credit, he had a great chin at Middleweight.

Yes.

And furthermore it's always an example I use when referring to Felix Trinidad's punching power who I consider maybe the hardest hitter I've ever seen P4P.

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**Dick-Sucker** · 03-05-2008, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by blackirish137

I dont know, I was pretty impressed with how well he took care of Bika and Berrio...theyre pretty good competition. James Obede Toney was a good win too.

Pretty good? Not even top 10. So beating two top 15 fighters, makes you the second best contender in the division? Behind Kessler?

No way. I would pick Mundine loosing to Kessler by 4 rounds. Beating Danny Green by a wide UD. And stopping Sam Soliman as number 2 behind Kessler.

Bute maybe in a few years, but hes not ready at the moment.

**Steak** · 03-05-2008, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by Ultimateboxa

Pretty good? Not even top 10. So beating two top 15 fighters, makes you the second best contender in the division? Behind Kessler?

No way. I would pick Mundine loosing to Kessler by 4 rounds. Beating Danny Green by a wide UD. And stopping Sam Soliman as number 2 behind Kessler.

Bute maybe in a few years, but hes not ready at the moment.

I dont agree with him being #2, but the Bika win continues to look better and better, and Berrio did have a belt...and had a pretty impressive win over Yusaf Mack, who Im pretty sure was undefeated at the time and was actually about to get a fight with Calzaghe.

I would say hes top 5, that sounds about right, doesnt it?

**Dick-Sucker** · 03-05-2008, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by blackirish137

I dont agree with him being #2, but the Bika win continues to look better and better, and Berrio did have a belt...and had a pretty impressive win over Yusaf Mack, who Im pretty sure was undefeated at the time and was actually about to get a fight with Calzaghe.

I would say hes top 5, that sounds about right, doesnt it?

Yep and i agree with you man...

I just saw Bute-Joppy