Pavlik's Next Two Fights: Lorenzo and Duddy? Ugh.

[cupcrazy01]

Abraham presents, I think, the biggest problems for Pavlik at 160.

Winky would be very difficult, but more than likely he's looking at a decision win, because he would throw so much and land enough to get it done. Winky would jab him well and defend well but I think the judges would be looking to give Pavlik the nod there.

Abraham could hit and hurt Pavlik, and he can box a little too...something Miranda knows very little about.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Abraham is the real contender. Pavlik deserves the one softie and needs to give Abraham the chance to fight on American TV as his undercard. That was the plan before Duddy blew it. Now Pavlik needs to steal Abraham's opponent and make the possibility of the MW twin bill less likely. HBO might as well put Berto on the first half of Pavlik's TV spot.

Winky is NOT a viable challenger at this point. He's had two consecutive unsuccessfuly title shots. Why should his legacy at 154 earn him an unending streak of chances? He needs to beat a real middleweight or two.

very true my friend!

[cupcrazy01]

Abraham is the real contender. Pavlik deserves the one softie and needs to give Abraham the chance to fight on American TV as his undercard. That was the plan before Duddy blew it. Now Pavlik needs to steal Abraham's opponent and make the possibility of the MW twin bill less likely. HBO might as well put Berto on the first half of Pavlik's TV spot.

Winky is NOT a viable challenger at this point. He's had two consecutive unsuccessfuly title shots. Why should his legacy at 154 earn him an unending streak of chances? He needs to beat a real middleweight or two.

Wow...Winky not a viable challenger?

Keep in mind one of those title shots was for the light heavyweight belt...and it was close. And the other shot against Taylor was a draw that most people think he won.

While Tito and Quartey aren't real middleweights, I think Taylor and Soliman qualify. And putting up a good fight against Hopkins is decent.

[kayjay]

Wow...Winky not a viable challenger?

Keep in mind one of those title shots was for the light heavyweight belt...and it was close. And the other shot against Taylor was a draw that most people think he won.

While Tito and Quartey aren't real middleweights, I think Taylor and Soliman qualify. And putting up a good fight against Hopkins is decent.

He didn't beat Taylor, I think he was lucky to get the draw. I wanted Winky to win but he didn't do it. I wanted him to beat Popkins, but he didn't do it. Now he acts like he's too good to earn his chances. He beat all the best lightweights and welterweights of ten years ago, that's nice and all, but it's irrelevant. You can't buy into this superstar mentality according to which older fighters can get what they want regardless of what they've done lately. He should fight in BAD against a Sturm, Lee, Mora, or someone like that

[Run]

Arum is losing it.

All you need to see is the matchmaking Top rank is doing with Cotto.



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[MELLY-MEL...]

Wow...Winky not a viable challenger?

Keep in mind one of those title shots was for the light heavyweight belt...and it was close. And the other shot against Taylor was a draw that most people think he won.

While Tito and Quartey aren't real middleweights, I think Taylor and Soliman qualify. And putting up a good fight against Hopkins is decent.

let me ask you this though, winky is winky. he is great, and a hofer, BUT, when you get numerous title shots and do not win, how many chances do you get? especially now since he has not fought, and beaten a top ranked opponent in some time? Arum stated in the article posted by raycorey here that winky was offered a shot at pavlik and turned it down b4 pavlik won the title, plus he was offener a shot at taylor again, and turned that down as well. he is the one who prices himself out, and is doing **** to earn a shot! he has earned enough off his past accomplishments, and they are all used up now. Winky has not done anything for me lately, and thats the bottom line! all he has done the last few years is lose, and than cry about it, and cried about how he deserves all this big money! that is clearly not the case, and everyone knows it except winky! make no mistake about it, he is a great fighter, and i am a big fan, but no matter who the fighter i would still feel the same way!

[Derranged_]

I think that a possible Pavlik-Duddy fight this year is more likely not to happen in lieu of the Irishman's dismal performance against a handpicked Smitchet. Arum's change of mind to match Duddy up with Pavlik indicates that they are not confident that Duddy is near ready for Kelly...

I think Team Duddy needs to focus on improving their fighter rather than pushing for a title shot too soon. In Duddy's short career he's taken alot of punishment in the ring and a devastating 'beat down' by the hands of Pavlik or even Abraham could set his career back 'light years.' You can look no further than at Jeff Lacy's career for proof of that...

[MELLY-MEL...]

I think that a possible Pavlik-Duddy fight this year is more likely not to happen in lieu of the Irishman's dismal performance against a handpicked Smitchet. Arum's change of mind to match Duddy up with Pavlik indicates that they are not confident that Duddy is near ready for Kelly...

I think Team Duddy needs to focus on improving their fighter rather than pushing for a title shot too soon. In Duddy's short career he's taken alot of punishment in the ring and a devastating 'beat down' by the hands of Pavlik or even Abraham could set his career back 'light years.' You can look no further than at Jeff Lacy's career for proof of that...

yes, but i am not thinking duddy is ever going to be good enough to beat the top guys! he is just very average. great heart, and determination, but little to get him past the hump of becoming great!

[DrewWoodside]

yes, but i am not thinking duddy is ever going to be good enough to beat the top guys! he is just very average. great heart, and determination, but little to get him past the hump of becoming great!

Duddy's best hope was getting his ass kicked by Pavlik in a title match. If he doesn't do this soon he will be exposed by a lesser fighter. After he gets beaten in a title match he can go back to beating up cans so myself and other fans can cheer him and get drunk. He just better hope that Andy Lee doesn't get a belt and steal all his fans. Unfortunately the only worldclass aspect of Duddy's game is his chin.. and even this is questionable considering the comp.

[Derranged_]

yes, but i am not thinking duddy is ever going to be good enough to beat the top guys! he is just very average. great heart, and determination, but little to get him past the hump of becoming great!

You're probably right about Duddy but that shouldn't disallow him from getting a title shot someday in his career. He's exciting and has a lot heart and that should count for something. Boxing's better from guys like John Duddy...

Btw, I'd like to see Duddy rematch Smitchet...